Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle /Update!!!! HikerMike button pics

[carpetbagger]

Found the belt plate yesterday at a site where myself and several of my hunting buddies have been many times. I even held a club hunt at this location with over 15 people. HikerMike pulled a nice Waterbury & Benedict com. button dated 1829-34. Just goes to show you a place is never hunted out. Any info on how to preserve and clean the plate would be helpful. Also the only reason i know what it is is because of a picture on google, I know nothing else about the history of this buckle.

Found the large cent and brooch at one of HikerMikes spots about a month ago

 

[Bob S]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Great Finds

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Great find! Congrates!

 

[carpetbagger]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Thanks to all who responded to my post. I am still waiting to hear from Roland Frodigh's Hallowed Ground Restorations at the American Relic Hunters forum to let me know if he can straighten the plate for me.
Hopefully I can get back to the spot soon.
HH
Jeff Kleparek

 

[Admiral de Salee]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

w.s.carver, I'm sorry to be late to the party for this OUTSTANDING find. Congratulations, and I know you're having Big Fun with this.

My first leaning was toward not straightening the buckle.
Then I went back and looked at the pictures (which I will do several more times) and came to the following conclusion:

I think that plate was bullet-struck. It doesn't look like a plow ding to me. I would (as someone suggested) see if a metallurgist or, um, "the guy down the block who has a Scanning Electron Microscope" can tell you if there's lead residue.
Maybe one of the big-time buckle experts can tell you with certainty.
If that beauty took a bullet for its wearer, I wouldn't change a thing.

It spent a lot of time underground waiting for you to find it. I think you can take some time in deciding how to treat it.

Congrats again!!!

 

[NGE]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

If my eyes are not deceiving me again, it looks like the mark may contain lead, because it has not turned to patina like the rest of the buckle. If you were to remove untarnished area, I bet it will shine like the day it was perfect! But I would not clean it, either, leave it as is, and don't str8ten it either.....NGE

 

[Marc in VA]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

If my eyes are not deceiving me again, it looks like the mark may contain lead, because it has not turned to patina like the rest of the buckle. If you were to remove untarnished area, I bet it will shine like the day it was perfect! But I would not clean it, either, leave it as is, and don't str8ten it either.....NGE

The spot that you see is where the silver wreath was once attatched to the plate. It is not bullet struck.

 

[MonkeyBoy]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Nice digs!!! Just my .02 cents here... but I'd leave it just the way it came out of the ground.... the "mark" in the upper right is very interesting looking.... "almost" like a bullet strike... but ?

MonkeyBoy

 

[NGE]

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That's the area I was referring to......NGE

 

[carpetbagger]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

That's the area I was referring to......NGE

Nice digs!!! Just my .02 cents here... but I'd leave it just the way it came out of the ground.... the "mark" in the upper right is very interesting looking.... "almost" like a bullet strike... but ?
MonkeyBoy

Thanks guys, the upper right hand corner still has solder on it where the silver wreath once was attached to. It has definitely been hit by a plow no one has gotten back to me yet as far as having it straightend. I plan on keeping it in a display so I have decided I am going to have it straightend, I guess its just personal preference.
I wish you all luck in finding one yourself.
HH
Jeff Kleparek

 

[NGE]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

You gonna have an authentic silver wreath put back on it, also?......NGE

 

[carpetbagger]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

You gonna have an authentic silver wreath put back on it, also?......NGE

Dunno NGE, you have one I can have?
Hopefully when I go back I can find it. Wish me luck. Thanks for your support
HH
Jeff Kleparek

 

[hikermike]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Here are a few pics of the buttons I found at this same site. Jeff...........ya did good on this one!! Hope we can find the keeper and the wreath!! Maybe we can hit it again tomorrow and sat. after the club hunt.!! This has been a really productive spot and I owe ya

hikermike

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

its shape might be a part of it history * it might have been dinged in battle -- if not it was dinged afterward still part of its overall history even if not battlefield related, -- it adds a soul to it --a one of a kind charm that regular plain flat buckles can not match* -- now if you want to wear it or sell it maybe you want to straight it out maybe not * humm possibly ruin the "battlefield damage" that makes it special? --think carefully.

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: Civil War Cavalry Sword Belt Buckle / 1824 Large Cent

Nice Find!

 

[downeysc]

http://www.civilwaroutpost.com/15.html?m7:cat=/Accoutrements:nonested

great find, look for the rest,

 

[BuckleBoy]

That Ecce Quam Bonum button is a Valuable find!

I'm looking for it right now...

Text is from Psalm 133..."Behold how good..."  Sewanee Button, right? CW ties there! I can't find a value on it, but it's a keeper!!

Aluminum Jelly would help that one--and I'd urge that you use that method of cleaning on the button.  If you need any tips, PM me...




-Buckleboy