colonial ?

[barryh]

found brass plate sunday on hill side along with assorted flat buttons and half real coin.can anybody identify this plate. plain front.

 

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[DigIron2]

Don't take my word for it, but I think you might have a 18th cen. shoulder belt plate there
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[CoilyGirl]

That's very interesting looking. Looks very similar to some plain sheet brass or pewter Confederate buckles I've seen but I don't know about the hooks in the back. DigIron may be onto something.

 

[barryh]

did some research online and found picture front and back of plate. turns out it's a cs shoulder belt plate. found it on corinthcivilwarrelics.com. digiron2 and coilygirl thanks for your input. put me on the right track. my first CS PLATE! adrenaline has started pumping. ready to go dig!!!!

 

[CoilyGirl]

I've been doing some research too(mostly here) and I'm not convinced it is a CS shoulder belt plate. If it is though,that's awesome. I just don't know enough about the finer points of these things so I'll leave it up to someone wiser than myself and with more books to help identify. Hope for your sake it is me,what a dream find.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/revolutionary-war/138918-rev-civil-war-site.html

 

[barryh]

keeping my fingers crossed

 

[barryh]

the site I mentioned said it was CS militia

 

[nhbenz]

I think there may have been a thread here about these that shows these as plates off of a trunk.... But I hope I am wrong about that.

 

[Iron Patch]

I think there may have been a thread here about these that shows these as plates off of a trunk.... But I hope I am wrong about that.

Yep. And I also have dug one.... and another was dug off the same site next hunt. We're lucky but we ain't that lucky.

 

[barryh]

I have the author of buckle and plate identification looking at a picture I sent. ill post back as soon as I hear from him.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I've never seen, nor heard of, a shoulder-belt plate which has six attachment hooks on its back. But I've seen brass trunk-plates which have that many "pins" for attachment to the trunk.

 

[Silver Searcher]

This could also be the metal cover off a horse blinker.

SS

 

[barryh]

This is what expert said




-----Original Message-----
From: mike <mike@odonnellpublications.com>
To: ransom hundley <elrandino@aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:38 am
Subject: Re: help please




Hi,

It would more likely have been worn as a shoulder belt plate than on a cartridge box flap. In those early days, the leather boxes of Americans were usually unadorned. If anything, they displayed small cast stars, hearts, or something similar. But some militiamen wore plates like this from the Revolution thru the War of 1812. Not all plates of those were functional, i.e., a tongue and two studs for adjustment, like the U.S. Army adopted in 1808. Many plates worn by the "common" militia were permanently affixed like this example. The problem is - the same size, hook arrangement and shape was also associated with trunk plates of the era. So, we must look for clues and make a judgement call. I firmly believe this actually was a militia shoulder belt plate. It appears thinner than many of the trunk plates and the surface of its front looks like it had been repeatedly polished. The fact that one upper corner shows signs of wear further supports my supposition.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: ransom hundley [mailto:elrandino@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 03:59 PM
To: mike@odonnellpublications.com
Subject: help please

Hi Mike,
We had a customer bring this in today. Ran believes its an 1812 cartridge box plate. Can you tell us what you think it is?




Thanks,

Angela

 

[CoilyGirl]

Super cool Barry!