🥇 BANNER Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

ModernMiner

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Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

I scored a few pretty neat finds the last couple of days folks.
The first one is an early 1800's bloodletting tool called a "Scarificator", with emphasis on the "SCAR" part. Please check it out on my "what is it" post:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,217365.0.html

Yesterday I finished up the yard where I had found the 1864 double die IH about a week ago. Well, I was on my last section of the back yard and about ready to call it quits, when I dug a button. I threw it in my pouch and headed for home. Today at lunch I took it out, rinsed it and saw the letters "CSN" and a large anchor. I got home and cleaned it up using Buckles button cleaning technique with a dry toothpick on the back and some Naval Jelly (seemed fitting too :tongue3: ) on the front. As you can see she is a BEAUTY!!! It has almost all of the gold gilt still on it too. :thumbsup:
It is a 23mm two piece w/shank. The back mark has "Firmin & Sons , 153 Strand London , & 13 Conduit St."
It is listed in Albert's book as #CS52A. I believe it is mid 1800's, but please correct me if I am wrong. :icon_scratch:
Any idea of the value of this button?
I think this is my best button find so far. :thumbsup:

Other finds were:

*A small decorative locket.

*Broken earring (yes, I broke it!)

*#29 Matchbox firetruck. Any idea on the year?

*A very hilarious dog vaccine tag with " UNSEXED - Female Dog - Virg... " (Virgin or Virginia??? :icon_scratch: )
I'll hold my comments on this one. :tongue3: :icon_jokercolor:

Thanks for looking,
MM
 

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Dman

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Re: MY BEST BUTTON EVER (CSN) and The bloody Scarificator!!!

ModernMiner said:
VOL1266-X said:
SUPER FIND MM!!! CS52A goes for $1,000+ in excavated condition per the Civil War Collector's Price Guide 11th edition to be replaced in August. That's a BANNER find Bud. HH.

VOL,
You are kidding, right????????????? If not, I will soon soil myself. Please tell me you're not joking.
-Doug-
Go ahead and soil yourself. VOL1266-X is right. It is worth $1000.00+.
Dman
 

Baggins

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Awesome finds!! I would say the fire truck dates to the 60's, or 70's...had one when I was a kid....
HH
Baggins
 

sneaky6

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Miner is the man!! You have a knack for Confederate buttons!! That may be the best one I have seen in quite some time! Congrats. And, I agree with the others, great job cleaning her up!! Good job all around!!

Keep up the good work!!

HH,
Sneaky6
 

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ModernMiner

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Baggins said:
Awesome finds!! I would say the fire truck dates to the 60's, or 70's...had one when I was a kid....
HH
Baggins

Thanks Baggins.
The other ones I found were in the 60's too. :thumbsup:
-MM-

sneaky6 said:
Miner is the man!! You have a knack for Confederate buttons!! That may be the best one I have seen in quite some time! Congrats. And, I agree with the others, great job cleaning her up!! Good job all around!!

Keep up the good work!!
HH,
Sneaky6

Thanks Sneaky.
I couldn't believe the gold left on this one. It must have led a sheltered life. ;D
-MM-
 

civilman1

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Congrat's on a Beautiful button Doug.....Just awesome!!! :thumbsup:
 

shaun7

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

excellent cleaning job on that button :thumbsup:

i've got to get some naval jelly myself!
 

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ohannos

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Congrats on a great find and making the banner :thumbsup:
 

kimsdad

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Congrats on the great finds and on making the banner!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :icon_king:

You really are finding the good stuff this year, my man! :wink:
 

Ohio Jerry

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Congratulations on the banner,it looks good up there!!
 

sndman60

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Awesome digs!!! Really love to fire truck. That button looks like it was dropped yesterday, really great condition. What a red letter day you had. Thanks for sharing.
 

Iron Patch

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Nice! I wouldn't part with that one. Money goes way too fast and years down the road all you'll have is a T-net post. :D
 

hogge

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Great find MM. Congratulations. You've been pretty hot lately. Save something for the rest of us will ya?! :wink: ;D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Hogge
 

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

shaun7 said:
i've got to get some naval jelly myself!

Its banned in Europe, I tried.


VERY NICE FIND
 

Mainedigger

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

MM....Absolutely FANTASTIC button!!! CONGRATS both on the find and for making the banner... :thumbsup: Besides the monetary value of the button, that find would be awesome jsut for the historical aspect of it, not sure if I could ever sell it ( I don't sell any of my finds, but that a personal preference) if I found it for that may be a once in a lifetime find. However thats some serious cash for a button and especially with the economy now, a Grand would definitely help out!!
Congrats again and I am enivous of those of you that are in areas where some nice Confederate relics can be found!!!
 

VOL1266-X

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Congrats on making the banner-well deserved. It is obvious that you have spent countless hours of your time and worn out many pairs of boots searching old homesites. WTG and more HH.
 

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

It is listed in Albert's book as #CS52A. I believe it is mid 1800's, but please correct me if I am wrong. :icon_scratch:
Any idea of the value of this button?
I think this is my best button find so far. :thumbsup:

It is indeed a beautiful button, but it had to have been made between 1861 and 1865 as it is Confederate.

I do have one question regarding how you say you cleaned it....
Using "Naval Jelly"
I was under the impression that this stuff was used to take the rust off of old iron objects....
and if so it is really a very strong ACID based cleaning agent.

What I would be worried about is not so much where the Gold Plating is... but any pinholes where there is no plating and this stuff
will carrode regular copper or brass metal.

Where there is gold plating it may be OK, but it might eat holes where there is raw metal showing....
Maybe we should let people know that this is a corrosive agent and should only be used with extreme caution
because you would never want to take a $1000.00 item and turn it into a $100.00 item...

Just my 2 cents....
 

shaun7

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

CRUSADER said:
shaun7 said:
i've got to get some naval jelly myself!

Its banned in Europe, I tried.


VERY NICE FIND



is there an alternative?
 

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Re: MY BEST BUTTON EVER (CSN) and The bloody Scarificator!!!

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Thanks DC. :thumbsup:
I'm just glad it still had the gilt, shank, and I didn't scratch it. ;D I think I better go back & see if there are any other goodies there. :wink:
-MM-

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If you haven't heard me "preaching" about slowing down, digging everything, and hit it again and again and again, then let me tell you. It took me over a year to get 8 buttons out of and area about 30' X 30'. I would hit the area at least once a week, digging every little signal which most turned out to be nails, TONS of them!!! I eventually found all 8 buttons from probably the same coat, North Carolina Military Institute.
You certainly need to spent a LOT of time in your spot, don't ever give up on it. The rarity and condition of that button would certainly keep me out there for a long time.

Congrats again, and congrats on making the BANNER!!!
 

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

MM,
Congrats on some great finds and the banner.

NJ
 

West Jersey Detecting

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Re: Confederate Navy Officers button (CSN) & The bloody Scarificator!!!

Fantastic find! Nice condition too!!
 

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