Copper thingy also recently found by umrgolf2010

[tomlinson]

Hello all,

We found this item in Delaware Water Gap PA. It looks to be copper and has a crown motif. I have included a link to another one recently found as well.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,356617.0.html

 

[Quinn98]

Hi,
I'm new, but have been lurking for some time now.

Spanish crown possibly? 4 baffles, cross at the top?


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Heraldic_crowns_of_Spain

 

[kuger]

Man,thats exactly like Jeffs,I have been looking and cant find anything!

 

[Roger Mn.]

Hi
I think you have some type of decorative picture rail hook.
Here are some similar.

http://houseofantiquehardware.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.142/.f?GCID=S14464x016&KEYWORD=frame%20molding%20hangers&partner=gpnc&s_kwcid=TC|7359|frame%20molding%20hangers||S|b|4067987679&gclid=COqezbzs56QCFQoTbAodKAU61g

roger

 

[Got_4by4]

I do not think it is a picture hook! It has more function as a scabbard
of sorts. The upper hooks would hold a horizontal handle where the
lower vertical tabs would secure and guide the blade. The top edge is
curved but not enough to hold on to anything securely. This one is
closer to it's natural shapes than the one of the earlier post. I think it
is exciting to find two items in different locations that are exactly the
same. Perhaps someone held the piece at the top and used it like a
handle to hold/pick up/use something else? The mystery deepens.

 

[AU24K]

After having looked at many "crowns" in my lifetime including coins, tokens, etc. I'd say that looks more like a French crown.
I also think that by having the two upturned "hooks," it is meant to suspend something...
Just my attempt to help...

Best,
Scott

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Several members think this is a scissor hanger but I am not so sure. Can you do an experiment?
Try to hang a scissors in this item and then try to hang it on a belt or shelf? Pics would be cool.

 

[trikikiwi]

Several members think this is a scissor hanger but I am not so sure. Can you do an experiment?
Try to hang a scissors in this item and then try to hang it on a belt or shelf? Pics would be cool.

Good idea.
Why is there a straight line of, apparently-to-me, rust?
Mike

 

[trikikiwi]

and then again can I see scissor handle shapes?

 

[cntrydncr1]

Watch where you hunt in the Delaware water Gap area!! Some of it is off limits (national park). One of our club members was arrested for hunting there!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Several members think this is a scissor hanger but I am not so sure. Can you do an experiment?
Try to hang a scissors in this item and then try to hang it on a belt or shelf? Pics would be cool.

Good idea.
Why is there a straight line of, apparently-to-me, rust?
Mike

I see the rust line but would scissors be rusty? I think no unless they were used outdoors.

 

[taz42o]

As others stated the crown looks french. although I dont see a 69, A crown and "69" are used on scissors as a mark of quality and Nogent, France is known for Quality scissors.
You can see the mark on this case, its a modern case but may be old company . cant read the name.
Dont know if this has anything to do with the relic or not but may be a lead to look into.
Maybe check french patents.
Also old does not mean large scissors, there are many antique sewing ,embroidery and hair scissors that are very small.

 

[Quinn98]

Hi
I think you have some type of decorative picture rail hook.
Here are some similar.

http://houseofantiquehardware.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.142/.f?GCID=S14464x016&KEYWORD=frame%20molding%20hangers&partner=gpnc&s_kwcid=TC|7359|frame%20molding%20hangers||S|b|4067987679&gclid=COqezbzs56QCFQoTbAodKAU61g

roger

Tomlinson and I hunt together and were stumped on this one. This is the best idea of what this could be that I've seen. A cord would have come around the two top hooks and channelled down through the center, the curved portion on top would be hung on a piece of crown moulding. Good one Roger!

cntrydncr1: As for hunting in DWG, the national park isn't marked, however you can see where the boundaries lay on Google maps. We definitely don't want to mistakenly end up in the park! Thanks for your concern and warning.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I like the picture hanger idea better (because I dont think scissors will fit) but how does this explain the rust line?

 

[Quinn98]

I like the picture hanger idea better (because I dont think scissors will fit) but how does this explain the rust line?

That is a good question. It appears to be made of copper, possibly a rub line of some sort. Or maybe just the way it was sitting in the ground made a mark like that.

It is quite small for a pair of scissors to fit in, but we liked that idea because there was an old barber shop very close to the spot.

Cheers!

 

[turtlefoot13]

I posted this link on the other thread but wanted to post here in case someone is only following only one and not the other.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

 

[kuger]

I posted this link on the other thread but wanted to post here in case someone is only following only one and not the other.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

Great link Doug!!That sure looks like it to me!!!

 

[turtlefoot13]

Thanks Kuger!

Doug

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I posted this link on the other thread but wanted to post here in case someone is only following only one and not the other.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

WTG Doug. Im posting your pic here for future record. You solved 2 threads.
I dont know what the crown signifies but many companies use a crown logo.

 

[turtlefoot13]

Thanks for posting the pic! I appreciate it!

Doug