Counterfeit Trime?

Silvermonkey

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Good evening T-Net'ers,

I was out detecting a new wooded site this afternoon, and un-earthed a trime. The date appears to be 1853, but is a little tough to read.

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When it popped out of the hole, I wasn't expecting to see this small coin. I have found a few trimes over the years, but this one was different. The size was right, but the VDI was too low ( 73 using the Deus 2 " Fast" program). When I got home, I compared it to an 1852 trime I found back in 2015. The 1852 trime had a VDI of 80, and weighed in at 0.7 grams. The new coin was slightly lighter at 0.6 grams. Is it possible that I found a counterfeit?. Has anyone heard of this happening before? I also dug a very crusty LC or token. Hard to see any detail. It had a VDI of 88 which is typical for British half pennies for me.

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Let me know what you think. Thanks for taking a look. HH>
 

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A very interesting find. It’s hard to tell from the pictures, but from what I can see it looks pitted like it was exposed to something that might eat the silver. If it looks like the color of metal is the same all the way through it may well be a legitimate coin. If not my guess would be that it is indeed a counterfeit. It is a nice find either way, congratulations, stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.
 

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Good evening T-Net'ers,

I was out detecting a new wooded site this afternoon, and un-earthed a trime. The date appears to be 1853, but is a little tough to read.

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When it popped out of the hole, I wasn't expecting to see this small coin. I have found a few trimes over the years, but this one was different. The size was right, but the VDI was too low ( 73 using the Deus 2 " Fast" program). When I got home, I compared it to an 1852 trime I found back in 2015. The 1852 trime had a VDI of 80, and weighed in at 0.7 grams. The new coin was slightly lighter at 0.6 grams. Is it possible that I found a counterfeit?. Has anyone heard of this happening before? I also dug a very crusty LC or token. Hard to see any detail. It had a VDI of 88 which is typical for British half pennies for me.

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Let me know what you think. Thanks for taking a look. HH>
Never seen a counterfeit trime ..
If it is , that's just as cool as a real one..especially since you have a trime already ..I only have one
 

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Good evening T-Net'ers,

I was out detecting a new wooded site this afternoon, and un-earthed a trime. The date appears to be 1853, but is a little tough to read.

View attachment 2093332 View attachment 2093333 View attachment 2093334

When it popped out of the hole, I wasn't expecting to see this small coin. I have found a few trimes over the years, but this one was different. The size was right, but the VDI was too low ( 73 using the Deus 2 " Fast" program). When I got home, I compared it to an 1852 trime I found back in 2015. The 1852 trime had a VDI of 80, and weighed in at 0.7 grams. The new coin was slightly lighter at 0.6 grams. Is it possible that I found a counterfeit?. Has anyone heard of this happening before? I also dug a very crusty LC or token. Hard to see any detail. It had a VDI of 88 which is typical for British half pennies for me.

View attachment 2093335 View attachment 2093336

Let me know what you think. Thanks for taking a look. HH>
Awesome!!! Congrats!!!!
 

UnderMiner

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I don't know if it is counterfeit, but they do exist. These sold at auction just yesterday -
Note to self, make counterfeit coins, travel back in time and bury them, dig them up 150 years later and sell them as contemporary counterfeits. Profit. 🙂
 

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I believe it's genuine. The corrosion could account for the lighter weight and I.D. on the detector.
 

Almy

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British halfpennies that I have found don't have a raised rim like yours. Looks like a US large cent to me.
I'm not disputing about counterfeit 3 cent coins, but just thinking that a counterfeiter would have to make a lot of them for it to be profitable!
 

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Good evening T-Net'ers,

I was out detecting a new wooded site this afternoon, and un-earthed a trime. The date appears to be 1853, but is a little tough to read.

View attachment 2093332 View attachment 2093333 View attachment 2093334

When it popped out of the hole, I wasn't expecting to see this small coin. I have found a few trimes over the years, but this one was different. The size was right, but the VDI was too low ( 73 using the Deus 2 " Fast" program). When I got home, I compared it to an 1852 trime I found back in 2015. The 1852 trime had a VDI of 80, and weighed in at 0.7 grams. The new coin was slightly lighter at 0.6 grams. Is it possible that I found a counterfeit?. Has anyone heard of this happening before? I also dug a very crusty LC or token. Hard to see any detail. It had a VDI of 88 which is typical for British half pennies for me.

View attachment 2093335 View attachment 2093336

Let me know what you think. Thanks for taking a look. HH>
I would say it's the real deal..now you have to find the 3.... cent nickle. ...oh boy...
 

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