Cruciform FOUND!!!! oooooo yeah ;)

[chong2]

We drove around 1200 miles this weekend to go digging in Bandera/Uvalde county TX just to have our trip cancelled due to bad weather once we got there..... What a heart break for me and my friends, all that time and money wasted...

So yesterday, still on vacation time me and a bud go out, very slow day and as i was walking back to the car, a few hundred yards away i see this little gem laying there, i was like no freaking way!!!!! The thrill of this was like finding a complete Folsom, 30 minuets after finding it my body was drained, felt like jello after the adraniline rush.

Here is the crazy part..... I went to a guy for a deep Riker case less than a week before, for our S Texas dig finds, and while im checking out a guy standing there asked me out of the blue if I have ever found a Cruciform before, I said no, but thats on the top wish list of my finds. Its strange why he would ask me that starting up a conversation of artifacts...

It has had some major time and care put into it, ground all around, no sharp edges, no nicks, get this, when you hold it up into the light, its translucent banded obsidian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have only seen one of these before, in a museum collection, in my opinion these are more rare that complete Folsom pieces.

Freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ENJOY
CHONG

 

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[Get-the-point]

GTP , ill start slowing down after i find one as good as your Folsom 8)

You already have you fiend.......is there a ACA (Artifact Collectors Anonymous) We all need it!!!!! Oh wait that is only if we are quitting..........not happening here!!!!I will out-do your little precious in no time!!!!! .........................later brotha~!!!...........

 

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[CSA2K]

Bravo! Congrats on the banner..

 

[chong2]

GTP ...... BRING IT ! Lets tear it up this year

 

[Bagman13]

Such a great find.
I keep coming back to check it out

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Congratulations on making the BANNER Chong!

You've got better eyes than me!

Dave

 

[centfladigger]

first time I have heard of these, congrats on having the knowledge and then finding it. I can see why they used obsidian as it isnt a hard rock to work, it is a 4 on the Mohs scale of hardness with a diamond being a 10. To think they pecked and ground such a small object for possible adorment is amazing. awesome piece

 

[dougachim]

Cruciforms

Cruciforms are Archaic. The main area for type 1 is west of Villa Ahumada Chihuahua about 150 miles south of Juarez. There are large areas of Archaic scatters on the lake bed west of the town. This is the only area I have seen incomplete, just chipped samples, and lots of broken ones I figured were broken when they were being made. Type 2 is different, never saw one from the Villa Ahumada area. I have seen one west of Las Cruces, and 8 or 10 from north western Chihuahua. I also have seen one from Senora.

 

[PioneerPauly]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/n...olished-indian-artifact-help-identifying.html same thing?

 

[dougachim]

Some cruciforms from southern New Mexico

 

[Tdog]

Hello Dougachim from an AOL member from many years back.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Dougachim..suggest you start a new thread so more folks will see those.

 

[mike b]

How does something like that even get a name when were not sure what it is ? That asked, wish I found one !

 

[OntarioArch]

Ritchie named this piece a "cruciform drill"; from Hunter's Home phase, central NY.
Ritchie, W. A. 1965. The Archaeology of New York State. Natural History Press, Garden City, New York. p. 258

 

[dougachim]

Hello Dougachim from an AOL member from many years back.

Hello

 

[oldmxrat]

Congrats on the banner!
Here's a couple of personal finds from Playas, NM from the early 70's.

 

[dougachim]

Congrats on the banner!
Here's a couple of personal finds from Playas, NM from the early 70's.

where around Playas My wife lived there for a while.

 

[oldmxrat]

where around Playas My wife lived there for a while.

On the Phelps-Dodge compound, my grandfather was a welder for them.

 

[dougachim]

On the Phelps-Dodge compound, my grandfather was a welder for them.

My 91 year old father in law worked 47 years for the mines as a boiler maker.