Dandy? Unidentified Item, button...1683 Property--Massachusetts

[btjbtj]

Good day, everyone!

I've attached photos of yesterday's findings. Perhaps a dandy flat button with a neat starburst design. Another button. A large piece of pewter. And a piece of something...brass? Around 1.5" long. I also posted this last item on the "What Is It" forum so we can hopefully learn more. Note the hole that was forged through it. Thanks for your thoughts! Happy digging, all. ~Lisa & John

 

[DetectingGodlikeOnOlympus]

Even though everyone on TNet calls them "dandy" buttons, they are actually macaroni buttons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_(fashion)

"Dandy" is a totally different thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandy

I just threw that out there to confuse everyone with some truth.

Your fragment is probably from a shoe buckle.

 

[btjbtj]

Thanks for the info! Not sure how to tell the difference between dandies and macaronies, so perhaps we'll just call them fancy flat buttons. :-). -Lisa & John

QUOTE=DetectingGodlikeOnOlympus;5117339]Even though everyone on TNet calls them "dandy" buttons, they are actually macaroni buttons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_(fashion)

"Dandy" is a totally different thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandy

I just threw that out there to confuse everyone with some truth.

Your fragment is probably from a shoe buckle.[/QUOTE]

 

[A2coins]

Out of my league not as much history here compared to where you are there I would probably dig most signals I'm a lot more picky Great finds Thanks for sharing them

 

[mspence]

Looks a lot like a NC sunburst button

 

[btjbtj]

Thanks, Tommy. We're finding the tractor very handy. Seems when we remove two inches of soil, A whole new set of signals show up. Slow work but good work. Take care. -Lisa & John

Out of my league not as much history here compared to where you are there I would probably dig most signals I'm a lot more picky Great finds Thanks for sharing them

 

[btjbtj]

Interesting! I'll have to google that. Thanks for commenting! -L&J

Looks a lot like a NC sunburst button

 

[port ewen ace]

a TRACTOR??_____________d>mn, I gotta get me of o' them. clear 6" of overburden, sift that & swing the plot_____repeat until ya' hit water or oil. more nice loot!!

Thanks, Tommy. We're finding the tractor very handy. Seems when we remove two inches of soil, A whole new set of signals show up. Slow work but good work. Take care. -Lisa & John

 

[Scrappy]

Thanks, Tommy. We're finding the tractor very handy. Seems when we remove two inches of soil, A whole new set of signals show up. Slow work but good work. Take care. -Lisa & John

I cringe when I think of this situation. A tractor? Removing soil after barely starting? Sheez man, it's your property so do what you want but I promise you're destroying more than you're finding. Good luck to you because I can't read your posts anymore.

 

[relic nut]

Nice finds. More good things to come. Good luck

HH RN

 

[btjbtj]

Talk to us, Scrappy. We're only doing this in the area near the vernal stream where we had to clear a bunch of thorny brambles. We dug all signals, then took the soil down two inches, and lo and behold--more signals. Not planning on plowing the whole four acres, lol! L&D

I cringe when I think of this situation. A tractor? Removing soil after barely starting? Sheez man, it's your property so do what you want but I promise you're destroying more than you're finding. Good luck to you because I can't read your posts anymore.

 

[btjbtj]

Hehehe, Port...not sure we'll go THAT far! ;-)

a TRACTOR??_____________d>mn, I gotta get me of o' them. clear 6" of overburden, sift that & swing the plot_____repeat until ya' hit water or oil. more nice loot!!

 

[Iron Patch]

Talk to us, Scrappy. We're only doing this in the area near the vernal stream where we had to clear a bunch of thorny brambles. We dug all signals, then took the soil down two inches, and lo and behold--more signals. Not planning on plowing the whole four acres, lol! L&D

Don't listen to that macaroni, go for it!

 

[btjbtj]

Thanks Relic! We hope so! -L&D

Nice finds. More good things to come. Good luck

HH RN

 

[btjbtj]

Thanks, Iron. Sometimes it's hard to know who to listen to in here! ;-) We certainly respect many opinions here, including yours and Scrappy's. Speaking of macaroni--time to start dinner! -L

Don't listen to that macaroni, go for it!

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks, Iron. Sometimes it's hard to know who to listen to in here! ;-) We certainly respect many opinions here, including yours and Scrappy's. Speaking of macaroni--time to start dinner! -L

Truth be told I just wanted to call Scrappy a name ...but if it was my land to do what I want with I'd beat it quiet with the detector and then rip the entire place apart.... mostly focusing on the heavier iron areas, and especially digging out any cellar holes and trash pits. You may not find much, but what you do would likely be in much better condition.

 

[btjbtj]

Fine advice, Iron. I'm sure John's wife won't let him tear up the lawn though! �� -L

Truth be told I just wanted to call Scrappy a name ...but if it was my land to do what I want with I'd beat it quiet with the detector and then rip the entire place apart.... mostly focusing on the heavier iron areas, and especially digging out any cellar holes and trash pits. You may not find much, but what you do would likely be in much better condition.

 

[Ahab8]

Lisa I believe your mystery piece is the broken frame of a small shoe buvkle from the 18th century. It has the correct shape and the hole would have held a pin that contained the chape, tongue and spike. These were what made the connection. Old shoelace of sorts

 

[Scrappy]

Truth be told I just wanted to call Scrappy a name ...but if it was my land to do what I want with I'd beat it quiet with the detector and then rip the entire place apart.... mostly focusing on the heavier iron areas, and especially digging out any cellar holes and trash pits. You may not find much, but what you do would likely be in much better condition.

While I love to disagree with Mr. French fries and gravy, but that's what I would have done. And by quiet I mean no iron... no nothing. I have a 5 acre spot I did that to but unfortunately National Historic landmarks are not keen on bulldozers. Lol

And don't mind me today. I'm home , stuck inside with two kids with strep. *grumpy*

 

[Ahab8]

Here's a couple of examples. One without the guts that shows the shape. The other fully intact. I could be wrong but the shape and hole for the attachment look right