DATING A BROACH

[mburnsgps]

DATING A BROOCH

I'm trying to identify this brooch and the stone in it. Just a date range and the stone type.

I found it on an 1800s farm site. VDI was 52, I think its brass.

The stone may be lapis.

Its 1.5 inches long by 1" wide with a small hook in the back.




Thanks

Mike

 

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[cambria09]

Hello mburnsgps. Not knowing anything much about your piece...except I'd be real happy to find it...gonna guess 1880's...it would great to see it cleaned up more.

Congrats, thanks for the post.and Good Luck out there. C9

 

[mburnsgps]

DATING A BROOCH

Hello mburnsgps. Not knowing anything much about your piece...except I'd be real happy to find it...gonna guess 1880's...it would great to see it cleaned up more.

Congrats, thanks for the post.and Good Luck out there. C9

Thanks for your interest and the kind words. I wish you the same.

 

[The_Piratess]

Congrats on your awesome and old find! Offhand it looks like the stone may be blue azurite. If you post more pics after it's cleaned up, the stone should be easier to identify.

 

[seadoodiver]

Great find. I am envious. Enjoy it and keep hunting. I have no idea the age but it looks late 1800 or early 1900. Take it to a jeweler they may be able to help

 

[mburnsgps]

Great find. I am envious. Enjoy it and keep hunting. I have no idea the age but it looks late 1800 or early 1900. Take it to a jeweler they may be able to help

Thanks to the last two replies. Much appreciated. Mike

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

A photo of the brooch's back, showing the "small hook," may help us to ACCURATELY tell you its approximate age. Various brooch "attachment forms" can be time-dated. But we can't say for sure (or not) until we see what's on the back of your brooch.

 

[mburnsgps]

A photo of the brooch's back, showing the "small hook," may help us to ACCURATELY tell you its approximate age. Various brooch "attachment forms" can be time-dated. But we can't say for sure (or not) until we see what's on the back of your brooch.

Thanks. I will try and get that photo done tonight when I get home.

 

[mburnsgps]

Thanks. I will try and get that photo done tonight when I get home.

Here are pics of the catch. It has a hole in it for the pin. It appears to be a "C" catch with solid sides.

 

[diggummup]

Here are pics of the catch. It has a hole in it for the pin. It appears to be a "C" catch with solid sides.

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Do these pics show the same thing at different angles?

Morning Glory Antiques

 

[mburnsgps]

Do these pics show the same thing at different angles?

Morning Glory Antiques

YES

 

[diggummup]

YES

And that is the "catch" not the pin mechanism?

 

[mburnsgps]

And that is the "catch" not the pin mechanism?

I believe so. I thought the same thing until I saw the hole in the catch. To be honest, it could be either at this point. Here is a photo of the opposite end.

 

[mburnsgps]

I believe so. I thought the same thing until I saw the hole in the catch. To be honest, it could be either at this point. Here is a photo of the opposite end.

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You are right. I did a little more cleaning and the end that has a raised piece and the hold in the end also has two small holes, one on each side of the wingwalls.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Mburnsgps, since you can view the object in real-life, please see if you can match up the attachment form with anything in the diagram posted below.

Giving credit where credit is due... that very helpful diagram was originally posted here in the What-Is-It? forum several years ago by our fellow TreasureNet ID-helper Breezie.

 

[Silver Searcher]

It looks very much like Victorian ere costume jewelry.

SS

 

[diggummup]

I think it's a riveted hinge with either a c catch or a lever catch and probably dates to the turn of the century to around 1920. Still hard to decipher in a photo though.


Riveted hinge circa 1900...

Lever catch circa 1900...

And a C catch circa late 1800's....

 

[mburnsgps]

Msburnsgps, since you can view the object in real-life, please see if you can match up the attachment form with anything in the diagram posted below.

Giving credit where credit is due... that very helpful diagram was originally posted here in the What-Is-It? forum several years ago by our fellow TreasureNet ID-helper Breezie.

Thanks CannonballGuy. The hinge looks close to the hinge and pin under the 1920s label. However the C clasp base doesn't look like the base that remains on my brooch. I should add that this brooch was found about 10' from a 1924 standing liberty quarter.

 

[mburnsgps]

I think it's a riveted hinge with either a c catch or a lever catch and probably dates to the turn of the century to around 1920. Still hard to decipher in a photo though.


Riveted hinge circa 1900...

Lever catch circa 1900...

And a C catch circa late 1800's....

Thanks Diggummup. I appreciate the info. This helps. Mike