DDC 1916 Fob or Tag - No ID for 9 years

[Iron Patch]

Found in Canada and I haven't been able to make a DDC connection that made sense. For anyone who googles a lot, if you try this one you'll see it's tough because there's many DDC hits that are definitely not related. I've spent maybe 30 minutes 9 years ago, and another 30 recently with my better searching skills, but still no solid leads.

 

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[DCMatt]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

We really need more clues. Was it found near the US border? Which province? Wilderness site? House site? Any other relics from the same era? Were you hunting with a one-eyed dwarf when you found it? Just making sure you're reading all the ?'s.

Anything could be a clue...

DCMatt

 

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[Bramblefind]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

There was a Dominion Dental Council in Canada at that time. It was referred to as "DDC" -

198 DOMINION DENTAL JOURNAL
....All it does provide for is the
granting of a license to practise entered on their register as
students, and who have complied with the regulations of the

D.D.C. In another section it is provided that the applicant, even
though he hold a D.D.C. certificate, must be resident in the
Province three months prior to his application for registration. ...

I HISTORICAL BACKGROUND

In 1906 under the auspices of The Canadian Dental Association (CDA) the Dominion Dental Council was formed to conduct national written examinations, the successful completion of which would grant the candidate a Dominion Dental Council certificate. The National Certificate could then be presented to the Provincial Dental Regulatory Authorities (DRA’s) as evidence of the candidate's ability to meet a basic national standard of competence. Some DRA’s were prepared to grant licenses to practice on the basis of the certificate, however, others chose to accept the certificate as an academic base only and required the candidate to pass provincial practical tests in addition.

The Dominion Dental Council proved to be rather ineffective. A name change to The Dental Council of Canada in 1950 along with attempts to improve the efficiency of the examination mechanism still failed to attract strong support from the DRA’s. This was in spite of the fact that the DRA’s agreed with the general concept. They had indicated a desire to be free of provincial licensing examinations, providing that a strong competent national examination system could be introduced, which they could support.

 

[packerbacker]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

DDC was also used to classify publications in Canada.
http://www.slais.ubc.ca/courses/libr517/04-05-wt2/projects/csh/examples.htm

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

We really need more clues. Was it found near the US border? Which province? Wilderness site? House site? Any other relics from the same era? Were you hunting with a one-eyed dwarf when you found it? Just making sure you're reading all the ?'s.

Anything could be a clue...

DCMatt

Not found near the border and a 1916 US find would be uncommon but not impossible. (no other US items found) It was house site on a river settled first by Loyalists but the first recorded listing from what I seen was 1820. Maritime Provinces. Lots of Relics.... Rev War buttons, 1812 buttons, and misc. dating right up to the 1916 item. Romeo the one eyed dwarf wasn't here, as it was dug before his detecting time.

 

[ivan salis]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

could it stand for -- dominion dept (of) corrections ?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

could it stand for -- dominion dept (of) corrections ?

I can't really see a link to my area, and I question if they were using the term corrections in 1916. To me that seems like more of a modern term, but I could be wrong.

Ironically this was found on a dead end road that leads to the local jail, but I am pretty sure there is no history that dates anywhere close to 1916. (my father works there)

 

[ivan salis]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

might have been a older jail there in the past---- often public building areas and such like "jail" spots are reused and tend to stay in the same area (since the officals already own the land -- they simply rebuild a new jail at the old site rather than having to aquire "new" land to build upon) .--might be worth checking into.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

might have been a older jail there in the past---- often public building areas and such like "jail" spots are reused and tend to stay in the same area (since the officals already own the land -- they simply rebuild a new jail at the old site rather than having to aquire "new" land to build upon) .--might be worth checking into.

I can easily double check the history but am 99.99% sure it would not be related to the current jail because I know where the one during 1916 was.

 

[Bramblefind]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

If I found that I would try to trace the house owners and see if anything in their histories could create a link. I.e that dentist council item I posted - if a dentist lived at that house it would certainly amp up the circumstantial evidence.

If you look at the people who lived there you never know what you might find that could help.

My resources are mostly US based. But I think there is a Canadian census in 1911 that is accessible online.

 

[ivan salis]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

home owner might have been a jailer at the other old jail

 

[JimDon]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

Here's my two cents. 1916 was around WWI and when Wilson created the National Guard. It could be something like Defense Council or Defense Corp. it also could be College.. I could also be something like Detroit District Council. Good luck.

 

[Native1858]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

D............?
Department of Corrections. Pocket Watch fob?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

home owner might have been a jailer at the other old jail

Old jail wasn't close enough to think that and as I said earlier I don't believe the term corrections would have been used in 1916. Plus I couldn't imagine how this item is associated with a jail when it is probably a watch fob.

 

[Iron Patch]

Although you found it in Canada, 1916 in America was a Presidential election year.

I would suggest you consider that the initials stand for "______ democratic convention" in additional research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1916

I think that's along the line of what it is. Something simple like an organization with a relevant date. Some good ideas being and I feel like there's actually a little hope now.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

The DDC 1916



I have a sneaky suspicion it's affiliated with the auto industry Canada to U.S
Durant- Dort- Carriage DDC

Apart from the partnership in the D.-D. Carriage Company, J. Dallas Dort seems to have been one of Durant’s close backers in other ventures involving the new automotive industry as well, and ultimately traded the Imperial Wheel Factory in Hamilton Avenue, Flint for Chevrolet Motor Company stock to give him the necessary equity rights to secure the moving of the Chevrolet company activities to Flint, and also bought Sterling stock on the basis that this company would make "sixes" for the Chevrolet Type C, the Little Six, and Light Six]. However, "Bill" Little moved from Chevrolets to Sterlings, and subsequently bought a majority equity holding in an early form of ‘management buyout’ in September 1913 [basically, Little swapped his Chevrolet shares for Sterling shares, sometime between June and October 1913]. The Chevrolet and Durant-Dort Companies were closely connected at this stage: Dort was a stockholder, and elected Vice president and a director of Chevrolet Motor Company at the same time that Durant was President in late 1912 until he resigned in mid-may 1913, the reasons still being a mystery, all at the same time more-or-less. The Chevrolet General Manager, David M. Averill was on sabbatical from the Durant-Dort Company and was placed in charge of the Detroit Chevrolet operations. When Dort backed-out of his involvement in Chevrolet and resigned, he and Durant went their separate ways and by 1915, Durant had either sold or exchanged his Durant-Dort Company stock for General Motors’, increasing his personal holdings.This probably explains what happened to the Canadian carriage works: see below.


The Toronto Directories state that A.G. Howse was the Vice-president of the D.C.C., and was based in London, Ontario, which suggests that Durant had another operation in London: was this the Durant-Dort Carriage Company Limited, or another company?

The Company was dissolved in 1917.

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/earlygmcanadhistory.htm

 

[Silver Searcher]

Detecting Dudes Canada

good luck with that one

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: DDC 1916 Tag - No ID for 9 years

i beleive its a tag from this company Durant-Dort Carriage Company

The DDC 1916
I have a sneaky suspicion it's affiliated with the auto industry Canada to U.S
Durant- Dort- Carriage DDC

The key to proving this would be to match the logo. (DDC in a downward angle) It a good guess and I searched a bit but couldnt find the DDC logo.

 

[Iron Patch]

The DDC 1916



I have a sneaky suspicion it's affiliated with the auto industry Canada to U.S
Durant- Dort- Carriage DDC

Apart from the partnership in the D.-D. Carriage Company, J. Dallas Dort seems to have been one of Durant’s close backers in other ventures involving the new automotive industry as well, and ultimately traded the Imperial Wheel Factory in Hamilton Avenue, Flint for Chevrolet Motor Company stock to give him the necessary equity rights to secure the moving of the Chevrolet company activities to Flint, and also bought Sterling stock on the basis that this company would make "sixes" for the Chevrolet Type C, the Little Six, and Light Six]. However, "Bill" Little moved from Chevrolets to Sterlings, and subsequently bought a majority equity holding in an early form of ‘management buyout’ in September 1913 [basically, Little swapped his Chevrolet shares for Sterling shares, sometime between June and October 1913]. The Chevrolet and Durant-Dort Companies were closely connected at this stage: Dort was a stockholder, and elected Vice president and a director of Chevrolet Motor Company at the same time that Durant was President in late 1912 until he resigned in mid-may 1913, the reasons still being a mystery, all at the same time more-or-less. The Chevrolet General Manager, David M. Averill was on sabbatical from the Durant-Dort Company and was placed in charge of the Detroit Chevrolet operations. When Dort backed-out of his involvement in Chevrolet and resigned, he and Durant went their separate ways and by 1915, Durant had either sold or exchanged his Durant-Dort Company stock for General Motors’, increasing his personal holdings.This probably explains what happened to the Canadian carriage works: see below.


The Toronto Directories state that A.G. Howse was the Vice-president of the D.C.C., and was based in London, Ontario, which suggests that Durant had another operation in London: was this the Durant-Dort Carriage Company Limited, or another company?

The Company was dissolved in 1917.

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/earlygmcanadhistory.htm

Mike, that idea was posted higher in the thread and I think it's very possible, just can't take it to the next step.