Different types of dowsing

[aarthrj3811]

Sorry about that….I will modify my post so Non-Dowsers will understand what I am Trying to tell them…I apologies for not making my post clear….I added this to my post...

I do not use this method and will tell you how I mark the spot.

Art

 

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[ClonedSIM]

Sorry about that….I will modify my post so Non-Dowsers will understand what I am Trying to tell them…I apologies for not making my post clear….I added this to my post...

I do not use this method and will tell you how I mark the spot.

Art

Now we're rolling! Thanks Art!

 

[ClonedSIM]

I'm sorry, AF...I didn't realize it mattered so much to you whose post I replied to.
I assure you it was merely Random Chance.

Ummm, I never made any mention of this, Judy. What are you talking about?

And as far as the rest of you self-absorbed rant, you never touched the thrust of my problem with this statement.

So you have an issue with tests? Fine.

You'd rather see a study? Great!

But why did you mock Tom when his suggestion mirrored Jose's? Why mock a skeptic when he is suggesting the same thing as a dowser?

Seems like Ms. High-and-Mighty Judy doesn't yet understand the depth of her own shallowness?

Just another case of dowsers unknowingly flaunting their flaming close-mindedness....

 

[ClonedSIM]

I'm sorry, AF...I didn't realize it mattered so much to you whose post I replied to.
I assure you it was merely Random Chance.

Ummm, I never made any mention of this, Judy. What are you talking about?

And as far as the rest of you self-absorbed rant, you never touched the thrust of my problem with this statement.

So you have an issue with tests? Fine.

You'd rather see a study? Great!

But why did you mock Tom when his suggestion mirrored Jose's? Why mock a skeptic when he is suggesting the same thing as a dowser?

Seems like Ms. High-and-Mighty Judy doesn't yet understand the depth of her own shallowness?

Just another case of dowsers unknowingly flaunting their flaming close-mindedness....

And you are deliberately misinterpreting my replies.
I never mocked Tom....I mocked the concept of a test.
I have always mocked the concept of a test.
No matter who proposes it.
It was Random Chance that I chose Tom's post on which to vocalize my displeasure....this time.

....and You are the only individual I "mocked".....by referring to you as "Tater".

Got it straight now, Tater?

You should really work this stuff out before you start spewing up posts, Spud....

 

[ClonedSIM]

And as far as the rest of you self-absorbed rant, you never touched the thrust of my problem with this statement.

Aft, your problem is a personal issue you will have to work out for yourself. There is nothing we can do about it. Dell

Oh, Dell. Don't attempt to cover up your inability to follow the posts by mocking them. Just try harder! You'll get it eventually!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Af, go easy fella! I too have had posts where I felt like someone was not seeing their own contradictions, or not seeing they're denying saying something they said, etc.... But rather than develope long strings of cut-&-pastes, to develope a Perry-Mason-like court case, just bring the topic back to what we're all trying to get to the bottom of: dowsing. Sure, that means you have to "pick your battles" and let other ones go unchallenged.

Sometimes all you have to do is "give the other person food for thought". Sure, maybe you didn't force him into a 20-point "admit or die" court-case, but the mere fact you give the other person something to chew on, is a success for either person. THEN, if that person has to admit there's something to grapple with, all the minutia of sentences they may or may not have avoided, doesn't mean much. You will have attained your goal, w/o having to put people on the defensive.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Yes Dell, thanx for bearing with the "tone". Deep beneath that, he's got some good points, but they get lost in the tone. If dowsing is questioned in a less harrassing way, then I hope you (as a notable spokesperson) are not in a "defensive posture", so as not to see fair questions, because of a few .... uh .... "passionate" persons, ok?

 

[Tim Williams]

Why all the fussing? Some know dowsing works and some don't. Whats the point in trying to convince someone that does not, that it does and vice versa? Everyone has an opinion and should be voiced. But when words get harmful and angry, somethings wrong. Just my 2 cents.

Tim

 

[ClonedSIM]

Tom, I accept Aft's, goal as harassment, so it's irrrevelant what he says, no mater how unintelligible or meaningless. Dell .

Dell, how is it you seem to have an inability to comprehend my posts, when no one else seems to suffer this same affliction?

Tom, I accept Aft's, goal as harassment, so it's irrrevelant what he says, no mater how unintelligible or meaningless. Dell .

Nah, Dell.....it's just pointless "thrusting".
Shake him off your leg and go on.

Aft's not a problem, unless he tries to pee on my leg. He just trying to get attention with his nusciance rantings like a neglected child might. There's a good hearted person underneath. Dell

Dell's taken up Judy's habit of backhanded compliments, I see. But I appreciate the effort.

Please remember, folks. If you create an insulting post, you will be responded to in kind.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Af, you say: "If you create an insulting post, you will be responded to in kind. " To the contrary: If you are given an insulting jab, don't respond in the same tone. That just keeps the vicious circle keep going. Instead, respond in kindness, reply to the topic itself, etc... You'll be surprised how that will put the other person at ease, and before you know it, they won't be insulting you anymore. Sure, this even goes for if you think "they started it". Yes, this means they won't get what you think they deserve, but so be it. Forget the vengence cycle. Believe me bro: even if you're never vindicated, and they continue to put in low blows, while you continue to be kind .... trust me: readers see the imbalanced exchange, and your comments will take a higher level of respect.

Tim you say: "Why all the fussing? Some know dowsing works and some don't " That is a results oriented defense. I am mostly concerned with the HOW dowsing works, not the results. I'm willing to grant that I (or other skeptics) may just have to eat humble pie someday, when along comes some demonstration that shows someone finding a goodie that can be attributed to no other source, than dowsing. If that day comes, I will still ask "how did it work?". THAT is where I'm at, not to debate results too much.

There is the topic of whether there are actual results (vs random chance, likely spots, etc...). I am of the opinion that most results do not proove dowsing's credibility. But, with that said, I will always allow a little side margin for the day, if it were ever shown to be repeatable, not random, not pinpointing with a detector (aside from a few foot), not "likely spots", etc.... If that day comes, then we/I have another thread to start :P

 

[jeff of pa]

Tom, I accept Aft's, goal as harassment, so it's irrrevelant what he says, no mater how unintelligible or meaningless. Dell .

Nah, Dell.....it's just pointless "thrusting".
Shake him off your leg and go on.

Aft's not a problem, unless he tries to pee on my leg. He just trying to get attention with his nusciance rantings like a neglected child might. There's a good hearted person underneath. Dell

Dell, I just got done Insisting AF Spell your Name Right.

Please Give him the Same Respect and Edit your Posts.

Thank You.

Jeff

 

[ClonedSIM]

My eysight is getting bad . The 1 looked like t. For awhile I was looking at the name under the avatar and calling him Boo, and then corrected myself. Sorry about that. Thanks for calling it to my attention. Happy Thanksgiving all. Dell

Actually, I didn't mind Boo.

 

[jeff of pa]

Thanks all.

I like when you's Argue with a Smile

JEFF

 

[ClonedSIM]

Thanks all.

I like when you's Argue with a Smile

JEFF