.Donner Party

[ISmellGold]

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[ISmellGold]

If the Donner Parrty account is not accurate and there were Natives involved? Interesting.
In 1846, the main part of the gold rush hadden't even begun yet. The easy stuff was probably in the rivers. Where there was Quartz there was gold. A lot of quartz in the spawning grounds, alot of fish too. Where there were fish there was Indians. Some event must of occcured at the river that sparked a massacre, because I am not buying the whole canibal story. Too much game in that area to have people eating eachother.

 

[ISmellGold]

Looks like there has been an excavation of one of the sites. If the "story" of the Donner Party is so cut and dry why would Archies be digging?

 

[ISmellGold]

Would be willing to bet some of that party burried some of their gold before they got wasted by the indians.
I think I am going to start in this area, right here.

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[DizzyDigger]

Some event must of occurred at the river that sparked a massacre, because I am not buying the whole cannibal story. Too much game in that area to have people eating each other.

ISG, chase your theory, but as I said before, the Donner Party is one of the most intimately investigated and reported events of the time.

I used to live in Truckee, and have spent considerable time visiting the Donner Party memorial. I have walked where they walked, and have seen the remaining evidence.

Too much game? What game? Deer? You think they're out walking around in the 30' deep snow drifts? Not to mention that it's seriously rugged country. No roads or trails to speak of.

Take some time and go visit the Donner Party Museum..walk where they walked, and imagine trying to survive as they did.

IF (and a big IF) they cached away any gold, it would be some distance East of Truckee, as they had lost their oxen and most all their supplies by the time they reached Donner Pass.

 

[ISmellGold]

ISG, chase your theory, but as I said before, the Donner Party is one of the most intimately investigated and reported events of the time.

I used to live in Truckee, and have spent considerable time visiting the Donner Party memorial. I have walked where they walked, and have seen the remaining evidence.

Too much game? What game? Deer? You think they're out walking around in the 30' deep snow drifts? Not to mention that it's seriously rugged country. No roads or trails to speak of.

Take some time and go visit the Donner Party Museum..walk where they walked, and imagine trying to survive as they did.

IF (and a big IF) they cached away any gold, it would be some distance East of Truckee, as they had lost their oxen and most all their supplies by the time they reached Donner Pass.

Meh, something was up, What are Archiees doing out there? Why would the "reported camp" be so far away from the river? There is more to the story than "Historians" are letting on. Probably sometime after the event they wiped the Indians out in that area? You never hear much about California Indigenous genocide. They don't talk about how the Europeans wiped the floor with Califonia indigenous in the old days.
That spot down by the river looks like a spot that needs some investigating. Indian Village?
Truckee Elevation of 6000 feet is high. but by no means unsurvivable.
I still say something happened that was swept under the rug.
and if there is some old timers burried hoard there, I am going to find it.

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[ISmellGold]

I don't care what anybody says I'm going to get me some of those Pre49er Donner Party River Nuggets.

 

[DizzyDigger]

I don't care what anybody says I'm going to get me some of those Pre49er Donner Party River Nuggets.

Donner Pass is over 7000', but nuthin' would make me happier than to be proven wrong in this case. Just sharing what I know to be true, but if you believe it's there, go get it......and I hope you get rich .....

FWIW, a pass just East of me on Hwy 20 is Washington Pass, marked at 5476'. The weather is so bad up there in winter that they can't keep it plowed, so they just close the road for the entire winter, every year. It just recently re-opened, in fact.

 

[ISmellGold]

Donner Pass is over 7000', but nuthin' would make me happier than to be proven wrong in this case. Just sharing what I know to be true, but if you believe it's there, go get it......and I hope you get rich .....

FWIW, a pass just East of me on Hwy 20 is Washington Pass, marked at 5476'. The weather is so bad up there in winter that they can't keep it plowed, so they just close the road for the entire winter, every year. I just recently re-opened, in fact.

Just going by there camp as stated by the archies.
I am going to get that Donner Party River Gold.
And I know just where to look

 

[ISmellGold]

Interesting reported camp site

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Looks like alot of old mines in the area.
Answer me this ? If the Donner Party was coming in cross country from the East, how did they end up camping so far to the North?
They would of kept following the Truckee River out of the mountains.
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If you really start looking at it, the "official story" makes less and less sense. A portion of the group must gotten massacred by the indians. In 1846 those hills would of been crawling with them.

They probably followed Big Truckee all the way down river, possibly finding both gold and Indians.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Okey Dokie...go get 'em.

 

[ISmellGold]

Okey Dokie...go get 'em. View attachment 2210341

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Never really thought about it much, but there are probably at least a few Gold Nugget river staches out there. You would think more than a few old timers panning out in those rivers were caught short by Indians pre 1849 and met their end. Probably both panning and mining.

Around the Truckee river near Truckee probably not a bad place to detect.
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[bc5391]

Been on the pass a few times over the years, long before computers and internet, did not know of river gold. Always new information.

 

[MiddenMonster]

I have reason to believe the "official story" may not be as quite as accurate as the "story" goes.

OK. 1) What is the reason you have to disbelieve the official story? And 2), Why do you think they were hauling gold? At least enough gold of consequence? I know that if I were traveling with a significant amount of gold back then I sure wouldn't have strayed from the accepted established route and risked everything on an unproven route.

 

[ISmellGold]

OK. 1) What is the reason you have to disbelieve the official story? And 2), Why do you think they were hauling gold? At least enough gold of consequence? I know that if I were traveling with a significant amount of gold back then I sure wouldn't have strayed from the accepted established route and risked everything on an unproven route.

Hauling gold? I think alot of this comes from the another story on Treasurenet about "lost Gold Coins" that were suposedly burried somewhere in the Sierras? My contention was why would a group of "settlers" take Gold Coins to California? Not onlt that apparently a lot of Foreign gold coins? They apparently left from the Midwest and Brought Foreign Gold Coins? Just seems odd.

Next is their route, the story goes they got stuck in the mountains trying to make it over the pass. But the Route clearly show they make it to the Truckee river, than all of a sudden turn North.
If you were trying to get out of the mountains, you would not turn North. So obviously they were not trying to get out of the mountains.
I suppose they could of brought supplies with them, and that is what they were selling to the Gold Miners? Rifles

Who knows? I just think their is more to the story than is let on.
The Route doesn't really make alot of sense. How and why did they get so North while trying to get to San Francisco?
There seems to be questions about the exact route? and their reason for coming West in1846?If it wasn't officially announced that gold was discovered in 1848? How did they know there was gold?

Who knows? All I know is something was up.

 

[ISmellGold]

The wagons were probably loaded with 1842 Springfield rifles.

Springfield Model 1842 - Wikipedia

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Got to blast them Injuns off the gold.

 

[MiddenMonster]

All I know is something was up.

When you get right down to it, that's the reason on which you are relying for disbelieving the official story. You just know something is off. You're free to pursue that, of course. But I would want a better foundation to build on if I was going to go after an alleged treasure. It's not like we're talking about a small area up there where you could just start poking around and digging a hole here and there.

 

[Mine Shaft]

Pretty much everybody from Northern California has heard of "the Donner Party" . Arrived in California from a Wagon Train in 1846-1847, that got stuck in the mountains . I have reason to believe the "official story" may not be as quite as accurate as the "story" goes.
Could there be lost diggings burried around Truckee California?
The Official Story According to Wikpedia

Donner Party - Wikipedia

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The big herds of Deer migrate out of that area so no deer to speak of at that time of year and to this day the same migration route is still the same. + the Bears hibernate so no Bear meat that would only leave Birds and bunny's maybe a few Squirrel's.

 

[Mackaydon]

The title: 'Doner Party Buried Gold' to me is a joke. Had the group possessed gold they would have bartered it within the group for food: yet I am not aware of gold being mentioned in this Party much less bartered for food.

Another mistake is to believe game was abundant. A few may have tried to hunt, but this is largely hopeless, since the large animals either evacuated the mountains or hibernated in winter--and the powered snow pack was measured in feet, not inches.

The only animals that remained were too small to shoot; though you could possibly trap them (coyotes and fox). Unfortunately, while the Donners were strong, smart, hardworking, entrepreneurial, and industrious, they’re Midwestern farmers; not mountain men. They don’t have traps, nor the fishing gear to catch trout from the lake, and may not have known how to use either if they did. If they were going to eat, it will be the oxen and the food they came with (or....each other) or starve to death. Tough choice for many who opted to abstain.

Don in SoCal.

 

[ISmellGold]

Those sum*itches were selling Springfield Riffles to wipe out the injuns on the river near the gold. Personally I don't give a sh*t. Probably a mass burial of injuns on the Truckee River. And I am going o find it. Those sneaky sumb*tch historians don't talk about how many injuns got wasted around that time.
If I happen to come across some River Gold Nuggets from the Time that some sumb*tch burried for the trip home, That's good too.