double eagle flask...

weston · Dec 28, 2009

ok guys i know what it is, but i wanna know the value, when, where, and other interesting facts. email me if you can help me thanks. can send pics to email.

weston

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

Weston -

If you haven't already come across this site, you might want to check it out. And be sure to look at the dozens upon dozens of sold bottles. Your's may be listed here, but I just haven't had time to look at them all - too many!

Note: The McK# is a reference to the bottle as listed in the McKearin book.

Also, you might consider sending these folks a photo of your bottle. I bet they can indenify it, and tell you what it's worth.

http://www.jeffnholantiquebottles.com/webpages/Flasks.html

I'd like nothing better than to see a bottle receive the Banner award, and you have my vote!

SDBB

traderoftreasures · Dec 28, 2009

man that's a sweet bottle i would laugh a 100.00 bucks... i would clearly give you 125.00 right now

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

$200.00 offered here ... C.O.D.

:hello:

Seriously ...

(Providing it is not cracked or has undisclosed damage)

This is a serious offer and good today only!

If we discover tomorrow it's only worth $95.00, the offer is off!

Just post your acceptence of my offer by 12:00 A.M. Pacific Time, and I will honor my bid!

SDBB

Discrimination Dave · Dec 28, 2009

I always gauge banner worthiness on my envy factor. Right now I am SEETHING with envy!!!!
BANNER!
Great Find!

GopherDaGold · Dec 28, 2009

"45 dollar 50 now 50 dollar 50 dollar
50 dollar 50 dollar give me a hollar 50 dollar
Who will bid it at a 50 dollar bill?
50 dollar 55 55 make it 55 and a 55 make it 55 and
Sold that bottle for a 50 dollar bill"
-Leroy Van Dyke- 'The Auctioneer'

Love that song! Love that bottle!!!

Gunny71 · Dec 28, 2009

Awesome bottle, very nice!
I say banner as well!

weston · Dec 28, 2009

banner worthry

sorry guys im new here. have not a clue. how do i get it put on the banner?

jeff of pa · Dec 28, 2009

weston said:
banner worthry sorry guys im new here. have not a clue. how do i get it put on the banner?

Sorry Not Banner Acceptable.

Very Nice find However

it is your First day & First Post.

You did Not add a story Of How & When you found it

Your Picture is a Bit Blurry
& Cut Rectangular. I Only accept Square Cut Pictures.

Just an FYI for future Posts
But Congrats on the cool bottle Find
& Welcome to tresureNet !

http://forum.treasurenet.com/banner

Jeff

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

Bummer!

Oh well, we tried! I'm not sure if my vote counted anyway as I am not a charter member yet. But if I purchase the bottle for $200.00 and sell it for $2000.00, then maybe I can afford it!

SDBB

Goes4ever · Dec 28, 2009

very nice find Weston, I am anxious to see what Steve (DaytonDigger) has to say about it

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

I'm intrigued by this bottle, thus the numerous post. I thought the following would be of interest regarding how the bottle was likely made. I noticed similar features on the bottle in question.

Figured flask - A generic name for the large class of liquor flasks primarily produced between 1815 and 1870 which are also referred to as "historical", "pictorial", or "decorative" flasks. These flasks were quite popular during that era because they were both functional and decorative (McKearin & Wilson 1978).

(See original photo - near neck and left side for evidence of mold extrusion).

SDBB

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Bottles blown in loose fitting molds can result in glass being forced or extruded into the mold seams. This is evidenced on a bottle by distinctly thickened mold seams or mold seams that project distinctly outward from the body of the bottle. Extreme examples of these glass extrusions usually broke off with handling leaving a rough edge to the mold seam. This feature is observed typically near the base on the lower sides of a bottle or at the junction area between the shoulder and neck. Bottles with this feature are virtually always mouth-blown and not machine-made. The picture below shows this mold seam feature at the junction of the neck and shoulder on a ca. 1870 liquor flask.

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

Here's More!

The 1908 image below was taken at the Seneca Glass Works in Morgantown, WV. and shows a gaffer (with the blowpipe) at work with his "mold tender" boy (seated). The mold boy would open and close the mold (at the base of the pipe behind the wash tub) as directed by the gaffer. In front of the gaffer in this image (to his right) is the chair where much work was done with blowpipe manipulation prior to lowering the parison into the mold. A second boy looks on with (possible) admiration of the gaffer as they were the highest paid and most elite workers on the glass factory floor and among the highest paid of all skilled laborers during the 19th century (Barnett 1926). It was also the position that glass factory boys aspired towards (Skrabec 2007). Directly in front of the standing boy is most likely the marver - a flat table used for parison manipulation. The caption to the photo is: "Blower and Mold Boy, Seneca Glass Works, Morgantown, W. Va. Location: Morgantown, West Virginia." (Lewis Hine photo, Library of Congress).

weston · Dec 28, 2009

ok got the scoop from one guy, waiting on the others. first estimate says shes worth $235

ill keep you guys posted! :icon_thumright:

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

Sheared Lip: 1800-1840. (the top has been sheared off).

This method of completed finish - cracking-off, bursting-off, or shearing followed by fire polishing - was commonly used on figured flasks dating from the first half of the 19th century and is very rarely found on bottles produced after about 1860

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 28, 2009

I found this link to an early 1900's film clip showing how bottles were blown in a mold. And just in case you thought it took all day to make a bottle, this clip will "blow" your mind!

Note: I'm not certain yet if the film link will copy and paste properly, so please bare with me for a moment.

(As it turns out, you'll have to go to this link to see the film clip. It's at the bottom of the "First" page, and is highlighted in purple.).

http://www.sha.org/bottle/mouthblowndating.htm

P.S. This website is one of the most extensive of it's kind, and is sponsored in part by the U.S. Dept. of Interior. It contains everything you ever wanted to know about bottles. Click on their "Home" page for the whole enchalada!

The above link is to an amazing early 20th century film clip of a mouth-blown "shop" blowing bottles. It shows two gaffers and one mold boy in smooth and efficient action. The gaffer makes the gather from the glass pot/tank in the background, rolls and pre-forms the parison on the marver (table to the left), then quickly drops the parison into the mold which the mold boy efficiently snaps shut. The gaffer quickly inflates the bottle and efficiently bursts-off the blowpipe while pulling the blowpipe away from the mold. (This is particularly interesting to see and shows that shearing or cracking-off wasn't always used or necessary.) The mold boy then removes the bottle from the mold with tongs while the gaffer knocks off the residual glass from the end of the blowpipe and then moves back to the glass pot/tank to make another gather. The second gaffer is doing all of this on a staggered timing sequence with the first gaffer which allows the team ("shop") to produce a bottle - albeit without post blowpipe tooling of a finish - about every 20 seconds! Film clip is compliments of the Owens-Illinois Glass Company. (Many thanks to Phil Perry, engineer with that company.)

Thanks.

SDBB

SODABOTTLEBOB · Dec 29, 2009

weston -

It's officially 12:00 A.M. Pacific time ... and since I have not heard from you I will respectfully withdraw my bid of $200.00 for the bottle. Had you contacted me earlier I would have stood by my offer.

Good luck ... I hope it's worth a million bucks. But in all sincerity I believe it to be more in the $250.00 to $500.00 range ... max!

If you decide to sell it, let us know ... and don't forget eBay ... that's where the big bucks are!

Thanks again,

SODA"NO-SALE"BOB

Just for the fun of it here's a rare 1947 Tom Tucker soda bottle I bought for myself for Christmas. It typically list for about $100.00. I paid $45.00 for it at a local antique shop. I show this primarily to let you know that I am a serious bottle collector. The Country Boy Beverages image I use for my profile (Which is exclusive to San Diego, Calif.) is a $300.00 bottle!

Skrimpy · Dec 29, 2009

weston said:
ok got the scoop from one guy, waiting on the others. first estimate says shes worth $235

ill keep you guys posted!

So Weston, follow the rules about making it banner acceptable and you will see a pretty picture of your find up at the top of the page on that ribbon of pictures...Even though it doesn't have a story, it's still one of the best bottle finds I've seen. Add a nice little story and ain in focus square cut pic to make it banner acceptable.

jeff of pa · Dec 29, 2009

Skrimpy said:
weston said:

ok got the scoop from one guy, waiting on the others. first estimate says shes worth $235

ill keep you guys posted!

Click to expand...

So Weston, follow the rules about making it banner acceptable and you will see a pretty picture of your find up at the top of the page on that ribbon of pictures...Even though it doesn't have a story, it's still one of the best bottle finds I've seen. Add a nice little story and ain in focus square cut pic to make it banner acceptable.