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dagfoto · Apr 19, 2010

CRACKBADGER said:
Stan,

and bidding on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220591698288&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Have I gotten screwed here?

Sedwicks Cataloge lists Hundreds of 1715 fleet stuff.. , cross sides, Shields, etc.. for comparison..
the one above looks closer to 1620's or 1640's..the '8' is Early , and oM/J should be the fleet assayers.. above looks like oM/D ( 1641 Concepcion wreck, maybe)...
yet I do have 1699 dated coins from Goodpastures estate

Yet anythings possible.. like buying a lottery ticket !

divewrecks · Apr 19, 2010

I just assumed everyone here had the Sedwick #7 catalog.

It does go hand-in-hand with all the scholarly text in Craig's work, which is a must have for any 1715 fleet collector. I agree it is likely 1600's. Besides the Concepcion wreck it also looks similar to Lucayan Beach wreck coins. I don't really see anything to tell me it is a sea salvage coin, but that is difficult due to photo size. If it was in the ocean its been heavily cleaned at some point.

Stan

dread · Apr 19, 2010

hi stan
i have been looking for a copy of the #7 catalog but so far no luck

divewrecks · Apr 20, 2010

dread said:
hi stan
i have been looking for a copy of the #7 catalog but so far no luck

All the other ones from the earlier auctions got rare in a hurry too. I think I need #1 - #4. I'll pay a premium over original price to anyone who can let one go.

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 20, 2010

OK looking Mexican 1600's coin, assayer D, but too lazy to look it up right now....
http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-HIGH-GRADE-SILVER-SPANISH-8-REALE-SILVER-COIN-/220592956321

Knock a few stamps in a $50 coin and sell it for $750....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sumenep-Indonesia-chopmark-8-Reales-cob-ca1600AD-/280495812854

Smooth boy....
http://cgi.ebay.com/LIMA-PERU-1688-DATE-MINTMARK-VISIBLE-WORN-/150435578351

Could be Maravillas, kinda coolf or $45....
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOLIVIA-POTOSI-2-REALES-1656-UNKNOWN-WRECK-ASSAYER-E-/150435540649

Early Potosi coin "reportedly recovered from a small buried hoard (tapado), found near Huånuco, Peru"
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPERB-c1578-SPANISH-COLONIAL-SILVER-4-REALES-COB-COIN-/130384612179

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 22, 2010

divewrecks · Apr 23, 2010

Not a bad buy-it-now price for a certed coin necklace, even if the loop is soldered on....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pieces-8-Reales-Spanish-Shipwreck-Coin-Necklace-/120560916343

Stan

cuzcosquirrel · Apr 24, 2010

That 4 marevedis actually looks pretty close to the coin fragment I picked up on the beach near a Spanish wreck.

divewrecks · Apr 24, 2010

Does anyone recognize this coin?....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Authentic-1732-Shipwreck-Mexico-8-Reales-Assayer-F-/220595170491 :P

Stan

jeff k · Apr 24, 2010

DiveWrecks said:
Does anyone recognize this coin?....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Authentic-1732-Shipwreck-Mexico-8-Reales-Assayer-F-/220595170491 :P

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 24, 2010

Jeff wins the first responder prize! I wrote the seller and told him that was not a klippe coin. Anyone know why?

Stan

Trez · Apr 24, 2010

Let me take a stab at it...
Was is because that coin pictured wasn't made by a m*****e first?
or could it be an incorrect date? I give

Trez

divewrecks · Apr 24, 2010

My lame attempt at smoking you out worked Trez.

Just my observation, but every 1733 coin called a "klippe" in the Ponterio Rooswijk sale had a small "o" or dot above the mintmark instead of the full sized "O" used on the cobs of that same year. There are probably some other identifiers traceable to the machine press dies used on the klippes, but this was the most noticeable detail in the seller's coin.

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 24, 2010

Like this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-8-Reales-Cob-1696-Excellentl-Condition-/250619771812

Here is another pic....
http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fakes/p8r1696VRo.jpg

Buyer beware!

Stan

divewrecks · Apr 25, 2010

Interesting counterstamp....
http://cgi.ebay.com/COUNTERMARKED-SPANISH-COLONIAL-MEXICO-SILVER-2-REALE-/190390825880

Stan

dagfoto · Apr 26, 2010

More Mystery .. I seek dated 1717 cobs, and got the one at Heritages sale a couple days ago..
Yet in looking thru the picture database ( I aquired this pic off Ebay ) .. they seem to look alot alike...

Hopefully they are the same coin - yet there is some differences...

More Chinese mystery ??

Trez · Apr 26, 2010

more mystery

very well could be.
You should inquire with Heritage...tell them your concern (I would)
I hope this turns out not another chinese P.O.S

You seek just that date?

Trez

MORE AND BEYOND OSSY · Apr 26, 2010

Trez said:
more mystery very well could be.
You should inquire with Heritage...tell them your concern (I would)
I hope this turns out not another chinese P.O.S

You seek just that date?

Trez

Hi Trez, Have a look at the heat cracks, they are in the same spot !
Ossy

Trez · Apr 26, 2010

Ossy,

Hello my old friend...how r u?
Good eye, I saw them...and yes.
I hope he finds out what it up...lets hope for the best.

I won't fire any shots, lol

Trez

divewrecks · Apr 26, 2010

They are the same coin. It is all in the lighting. Look at the very minute pores and scratches on both coins. They wouldn't reproduce that perfectly if one was made as a cast copy of the other. This is a good example of how proper lighting can really make a difference in a picture or digital image.

Sam, those aren't heat cracks. Actually quite the opposite, they are from a lack of heat. Wood for charcoal had been stripped from all the areas around Potosi by the 1700's. As a result of this lack of charcoal they didn't always get a full annealing process prior to striking. This is briefly documented in Alan Craig's book on silver coins from the Florida collection.

Like Trez I am kind of interested in why you are trying to hoard up all the 1717 coins? :icon_scratch: