Ebola is HERE in the U.S.

How about not letting people from over in the countries come here, or better yet why bring those sick doctors here for treatment, when the CDC has the ability to setup temp hospitals anywhere anytime..that's what I felt was universally stupid! but they did let folks here and now watch what happens.

Mike
 

Non starter here. Only way to get a pandemic here is with something airborne. Ebola is too easily isolated. Quarantine the sick and prevent contact with infected body fluids and it's over.

My bet on the next pandemic here is a strain of the flu.

The CDC says that too, they also say you are not contagious until you get a fever ( that seems like more hope than fact at this point). What if there were a few people that said they never go to the hospital. And that few people started a low grade fever, that presented itself as a flu? Anybody? Anybody?

Care to guess how many people that someone could infect?
 

Does anyone see a disconnect here? At what point in the fever do YOU go to the hospital. How many people do you interact with until you feel really sick.

I also know that many people wash their hands very seldom, in the belief that it helps immunize them to the normal illnesses of the world.

I hope I am not getting too technical here! lololol:laughing7:
 

quite frankly Dave I barely ever wash my hands, I eat food off the floor..cat hair and all, and I barely ever get sick. your body needs germs to strengthen its self, the immune system needs it. I deal with the public all day and have been asking my customers is they wipe down buggies and such to kill germs, almost all the people I've talked to that try and sterilize all the germs around them all the time, are sick all the time.
maybe I'm just lucky on not getting sick, but I believe its because my immune system gets a lot of practice.

Mike
 

Only about 3000 died in Africa so it isn't easily transmitted, have not found reports saying it has become airborne..

Far better odds dying from flu.....
 

quite frankly Dave I barely ever wash my hands, I eat food off the floor..cat hair and all, and I barely ever get sick. your body needs germs to strengthen its self, the immune system needs it. I deal with the public all day and have been asking my customers is they wipe down buggies and such to kill germs, almost all the people I've talked to that try and sterilize all the germs around them all the time, are sick all the time.
maybe I'm just lucky on not getting sick, but I believe its because my immune system gets a lot of practice.

Mike

I know mike! And I know many more that are the same way. But then, we haven't seen a disease that didn't care about that in awhile either. Look up the Spanish flu, 1918? Maybe? Nearly 10%. And typhoid mary never got sick either?

Some people are luckier than others.:dontknow:


By the way, it mimics the flu till it doesn't . When do you know the difference?
 

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when do you know the difference ? muwhaha! probably when you start bleeding out your ears and eyes, and crap comes out so hard and fast the FAA tells you, that you need a pilots license heh.
seriously though looking at non mainstream media..its some terrible stuff, only way I can think of that would be a worse more painful death, is in a fire.
sorry for the gross reply, I know Dave can handle it, not the umm..heh..hrm the LEFT handed folks.

BC
 

Take care of yourself buddy. Fluids, and I have heard much hand washing? Lolol . take care.

I grew up in the dirt. I don't care about washing my vegetables from my garden, I just wipe em off. But you know what makes my in laws think I am a germaphobe? I do not like sick people around me. Including my nieces and nephews, because I am prone to bronchial infections.

You didn't ask, but I will offer this. Animals don't bother me. But people? I hate when they cough and sputter on me without care, or remorse. This simple observation is why this disease could be tough on some people. On a plane last year I had two young preteens that were very, very sick in the seat behind me, coughing and sneezing little tidbits on my bald head, the parents were safely a few rows away. After I glared at them enough I put my head in my shirt. Man I wish I had brought a Sars mask! Some people will never figure out civilization.
 

A couple of drops of infected bodily fluid in an unsuspecting persons food or drink...Unsuspecting time bombs...Who knowsIt could be a lot worse than it actually is..

Actually one little drop has the ability to infect 500,000 people.
 

What sucks is I travel for work, and deal with people that travel all the time at work...looks like i might work from the house for a few weeks
 

What sucks is I travel for work, and deal with people that travel all the time at work...looks like i might work from the house for a few weeks

I liked your post for understanding. But the reality it could portend is problematic, in many ways.
 

I want to add something, either you will see what I'm saying or you will think I'm just paranoid/insane.
I'm not a biologist, I do however read a lot, probably 100 times more than even RJC does..here's what I'm thinking about this supposed Ebola outbreak..I feel it is a nwo/one percent deal. why ? well because they hate everybody.! also you may not know that with Ebola, after you have recovered from it, your body develops antibodies for 10 years against all strains of Ebola.
it is not hard to make a reach for the possibility that somebody synthesized a benign Ebola strain and gave it to those they want to keep around, then release upon the world a highly virulent strain of Ebola. odds are you can kiss your butt goodbye. but why ? Utopian society ? I'm filthy rich so I'm better than you! that kinda thing. our rock is extremely overpopulated. the time has come to cull the herd! I'd say more about my feelings but I cannot think of a way to say it without being political. sorry.

BC
 

They said same thing about Aids..... I'm not wasting any of my time worrying about it. The chances of dying from cancer dwarf Ebola...
 

They said same thing about Aids..... I'm not wasting any of my time worrying about it. The chances of dying from cancer dwarf Ebola...
Absolutely true! The powers at the time tended to try and get people to be more cautious though, at the time scientists were willing to say that they didn't have all of the answers yet. BUt since the science got settled, anything they say is right, at the time they say it, and right seems to change with the circumstances.

I do agree though. live your life, educate yourself, take what you hear or read with a grain of salt and especially if the differing opinions come from the same place.
 

10 Most Serious Public Health Scares Ever



The late 20th and early 21st centuries may have brought cures for many diseases, but they have also brought their fair share of new threats to public health. In an age that has witnessed the rise of international travel, the emergence of antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the heavy use of chemicals, it seems there are more vectors for worldwide health crises than ever. And although there have been numerous unfounded health scares, there have been several whose dangers were only too real. Wash your hands thoroughly and stock up on the penicillin as we list the most serious public health scares ever.

10. H5N1 (Bird Flu)



H5N1, or “bird flu,” has appeared sporadically in poultry populations for over forty years, but it wasn’t until 2004 that it first hit the headlines as a human pandemic. The outbreak originated in Vietnam and Thailand’s poultry industries and comprised a new, fast-mutating strain that was frequently fatal in humans. Some experts predicted that the disease would evolve into a more dangerous form that could lead to mass human infections. Fortunately this didn’t take place, but 566 confirmed cases and 322 deaths still resulted, and 400 million poultry were killed worldwide, either by the disease itself or in a cull to prevent the spread of the virus. Although the outbreak is no longer the focus of media attention, a steady trickle of deaths is still being reported in many parts of the world, including China and Indonesia.

9. HIV/AIDS



The Human Immunodeficiency Virus was arguably the most devastating pandemic of the 20th century. Since it was heralded as an epidemic in 1981, HIV/AIDS has killed over 25 million people, infected around 0.6% of the world’s population, and prompted numerous multimillion-dollar public health campaigns to contain it. When the condition was first discovered, the backlash against the gay and drug-using communities (who were at the highest risk of contracting the disease) was very high, and experts gloomily predicted that it would decimate entire populations. Despite these predictions not being fulfilled in Europe, AIDS continues to destroy countless lives in Africa, with some regions suffering an infection rate of up to 25%.

8. MRSA



MRSA is a particularly serious problem for hospitals: a strain of common bacterium that has evolved to be flesh eating, virulent and highly resistant to antibiotics. Victims frequently suffer from wounds or sores that fail to heal, rashes and secondary infections, with a death rate of 20-50 percent depending on the strain. MRSA is most common in hospitals, which contain a high volume of people with compromised or weakened immune systems who are highly vulnerable to the disease. On the other hand, it’s potentially one of the easiest public health problems to eliminate at the source: experts say that doctors following proper hygiene procedures at all times could greatly reduce the number of cases.

7. SARS



Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome is a flu-like virus discovered in 2002 that quickly made the headlines for its gruesomely high mortality rate (especially among the elderly) and its potential for causing a pandemic. The disease emerged from the Guangdong province of China and spread quickly through air travel, eventually infecting nearly 8,500 people across the world. Only effective quarantines and screening of air passengers by several different governments brought the disease under control, but not before it claimed 916 lives.

6. Ingested Plastic e.g. BPA



Another insidious health risk we’ve seen in recent years comes not just from our food and drink, but also from the very containers that we use to serve them. Many of us drink from plastic bottles and cups that contain harmful substances like phthalates and Bisphenol A (BPA). Research has shown that sufficiently hot or acidic drinks can break down the integrity of these containers and cause them to leak into the bottle, causing them to be consumed. These chemicals can have effects ranging from obesity and an imbalance of hormone levels in the body, to the damaging of growth and development in children. Prof Dr Mustafa Ali Mohd, head of the Shimadzu-Universiti Malaya Medical Centre (UMMC) center for xenobiotic studies, has even called for plastics to be immediately banned and replaced with paper for certain drinks.

5. Thalidomide



Thalidomide was created by a German pharmaceutical company in the late 1950s as a tranquilizer intended to prevent women from suffering from morning sickness. Sadly, it turned out to have a devastating side effect: children who were exposed to the medicine in the womb often developed birth defects, which included missing and shortened limbs and facial deformities. This was eventually revealed to be a result of a chemical that inhibits growth: since most women took the medicine in the first three months of pregnancy, it often led to body parts failing to form properly. An estimated 10 to 20 thousand infants were affected before Thalidomide was banned in the early 1960s, although the drug is still controversially used today to treat illnesses such as leprosy and some cancers.

4. Mad Cow Disease/BSE



Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy is a disease of the nervous system in cattle and is caused by proteins called prions infecting the brain. The disease devastated the UK’s beef industry in the late 1980s and early 1990s, leading to a ban on exporting the meat for years. To make matters worse, BSE-infected beef turned out to cause a strain of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans: the outbreak killed around 200 people in cases around the world and may eventually kill many more because of the disease’s long incubation period. Sadly, the crisis was caused by human error: cattle being fed infected carcasses led to the disease spreading, then lax slaughtering practices caused nervous tissue to be mixed with lower-quality meat products like hamburgers, allowing it to infect humans.

3. DDT



In the interests of controlling one menace to society, there is always the risk of creating another, perhaps greater, danger. That was the case with DDT, a powerful insecticide used on crops, which was said to have potentially catastrophic effects on the environment and public health. Since the metabolized chemicals in DDT can damage human hormones, the effect of the insecticide was to increase the risk of premature birth or low birth weight in babies whose mothers were exposed to it. The chemical also persisted in the ecosystem, which could cause a dangerous build-up in animals higher up the food chain. In the 1970s and 80s the chemical was banned as a pesticide in most countries, although it continues to be used in India and North Korea.

2. Asbestos



Asbestos is a set of silicate minerals found in nature and composed of long, thin fibrous strands. It was commonly used as both insulation and fireproof material from the industrial revolution onwards, so it was a nasty shock to architects when they learned that breathing in fibers from the material could lead to serious pulmonary diseases, including cancer. During the 1970s, a convergence of factors, including large numbers of asbestos products on the market, factories polluting local neighborhoods and workers suffering heavy rates of exposure, combined to cause general uproar. Since most of the diseases caused by asbestos have a latency period of anything up to 50 years, many of them are only just showing up on death statistics now, but it is estimated that approximately 10,000 people die of asbestos related causes in the US per year.

1. MMR Jab/Autism Link



It’s said that health scares can cause more trouble than the actual health risk itself, and that was definitely true of the backlash against the Measles, Mumps and Rubella jab. The MMR was a combined vaccination against childhood diseases introduced in 1988. Ten years later, a medical researcher named Andrew Wakefield published a paper that suggested a link between the injection and certain forms of autism. The tremendous backlash against the vaccine that followed lowered immunization rates from 92 percent to 73 percent in the UK and may have led to a number of measles deaths amongst children. An investigation later revealed that Wakefield had been paid more than $630,000 to find a link between the vaccine and condition, and that he may have fabricated some or all of his research. A truly infamous case of a health scare that caused more damage than the problem it was meant to address.



http://www.mphonline.org/serious-public-health-scares/
 

Then... there is the E-Virus; NASTY WORM, it is...
 

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