Egypt ... Explained.

[Ammonhotep]

This video has been making the circuit among those connected to Egypt, like myself.

The title says it all!

 

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[Frankn]

There will never be peace in countries ruled by religion! Frank...

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

There will never be peace in countries ruled by religion! Frank...View attachment 824672

I find that quote pretty ironic, as in regards to "In God We Trust". just saying.......

Thanks ammo, good video. It's not always easy understanding other cultures mindsets and ways.

 

[Frankn]

I find that quote pretty ironic, as in regards to "In God We Trust". just saying.......

Thanks ammo, good video. It's not always easy understanding other cultures mindsets and ways.

The way I look at it is religion should be a voluntary acceptance of a way of life based on a belief. Have you ever read the Koran? It defines a harsh existence based on cruel laws. Like, if a pickpocket steals, you cut off his hand. It is mandatory for women to have circumcisions. You can be beheaded for not believing. Check it out. You have to realize Mohammed was a soldier, not a profit.
As far as" In God we trust", that is referring to the people. How many do you believe trust our leadership right now? Frank...

I just call them as I see them. I deal in reality.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

The way I look at it is religion should be a voluntary acceptance of a way of life based on a belief. Have you ever read the Koran? It defines a harsh existence based on cruel laws. Like, if a pickpocket steals, you cut off his hand. It is mandatory for women to have circumcisions. You can be beheaded for not believing. Check it out. You have to realize Mohammed was a soldier, not a profit.
As far as" In God we trust", that is referring to the people. How many do you believe trust our leadership right now? Frank...

View attachment 824694I just call them as I see them. I deal in reality.

Reality is another one of those, subjective matters, also. been on the forum here, long, Frankn?

Yes, I've read, downloaded, studied, and cross referenced some of the BIG major differences of our two "books". (I also gave it all to a missionary about 15 yrs ago, when her and her husband were going to Iraq).

What I am saying by my statement, is that, any time you make a definitive statement about another, are you not able to see, how that same statement can also apply to you(us/we, whatever) and our situation.
By that "in god we trust" thing, is that not like, the American slogan? So your statement could be dually applied to both "them" and "us". Shirly, you're not implying Obama thinks he's god? LOL! hehehe
I do know of Mohamed and his history, as well. (I wonder if they ever ran the biblecode on the koran, just curious, eh, another subject....)

Our "book" also teaches eye for eye, stoning, incest, etc.... I mean forgive me, ever READ the first couple a chapters? There is/was a lot a violence. Looking at it from a purely historical type stand point.
Frankn, this is why I always say, any time I make a definitive statement, there can always be a flip side to the coin, or the statement can or could be applied, right back at me/my situation/my case, whatever.
And, according to Jiddu Krishnamurta; "Once you define something, it becomes dead".

Eh, just words, ya'll have fun and be good.

 

[Frankn]

Reality is another one of those, subjective matters, also. been on the forum here, long, Frankn?

Yes, I've read, downloaded, studied, and cross referenced some of the BIG major differences of our two "books". (I also gave it all to a missionary about 15 yrs ago, when her and her husband were going to Iraq).

What I am saying by my statement, is that, any time you make a definitive statement about another, are you not able to see, how that same statement can also apply to you(us/we, whatever) and our situation.
By that "in god we trust" thing, is that not like, the American slogan? So your statement could be dually applied to both "them" and "us". Shirly, you're not implying Obama thinks he's god? LOL! hehehe
I do know of Mohamed and his history, as well. (I wonder if they ever ran the biblecode on the koran, just curious, eh, another subject....)

Our "book" also teaches eye for eye, stoning, incest, etc.... I mean forgive me, ever READ the first couple a chapters? There is/was a lot a violence. Looking at it from a purely historical type stand point.
Frankn, this is why I always say, any time I make a definitive statement, there can always be a flip side to the coin, or the statement can or could be applied, right back at me/my situation/my case, whatever.
And, according to Jiddu Krishnamurta; "Once you define something, it becomes dead".

Eh, just words, ya'll have fun and be good.

To me reality is not subjective. It is firm, solid facts. When I look at my hand, I see five fingers, or four fingers and a thumb if you prefer, but it is reality no matter who looks at it, it is the same.
I don't think BO thinks he is God, King perhaps lol
I look at America, and the United States as the people, who are supposed to be represented by the government, there elected representatives.
Yes, the Old Testament does mention stoning, but is it not stated in the New Testament, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."
My early education was under the Calvert System where I was taught the basis of most religions both fact and fabled. You know God, Jesus, Mohammed, Budda, Odin,Confucius, etc,etc,etc. so I have a good idea of the basics.
I know where your heart is Pat, have a good evening, Frank...

 

[Crispin]

Don't mess with PTC when it comes to religion...it would be like debating golf with Tiger Woods.

 

[Frankn]

Don't mess with PTC when it comes to religion...it would be like debating golf with Tiger Woods.

Probably more like me discussing the theory of gravity with Einstein. LOL Frank...

 

[Crispin]

Thanks Ammonhotep!

That was extremely informative. I had been following the Egyptian crisis fairly closely but there was a lot of great information in there I had never heard before.

Crispin

 

[Crispin]

Probably more like me discussing the theory of gravity with Einstein. LOL Frank...

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Or the theory of gravity with Newton and the theory of relativity with Einstein. It is all relative my friend...just depends through which view Einstein was looking.

Crispin

 

[Terry Soloman]

I have a theory. Nuke the middle East. Pave it all, and put up a few McDonald's, Starbucks, and Baskin Robbins. Have a great day.

 

[Crispin]

That is a pretty poor theory...

 

[Lafitte Deux]

It's amazing that a theory like that is pervasive in America.
Anyone that doesn't fit the mold of "Guns, Money, and a White European Divine Being" must be a terrorist, so nuke 'em.
The middle east has little to do with life in America. You might want to consider that before you cast judgement on an entire people.

 

[Frankn]

Or the theory of gravity with Newton and the theory of relativity with Einstein. It is all relative my friend...just depends through which view Einstein was looking.

Crispin

Newton had it backwards. He thought the earth pulled things down. Einstein found that the dark matter actually pushed down from above. I would explain it further, but it would take to much time. Relativity is quite a bit more involved. Frank...

 

[Crispin]

Newton had it backwards. He thought the earth pulled things down. Einstein found that the dark matter actually pushed down from above. I would explain it further, but it would take to much time. Relativity is quite a bit more involved. Frank...

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Please go on...I don't know much about dark matter. It was not taught to me. How does things being pulled up jive with Kepler's (not sure if it is one p or two) law of planetary motion?

 

[Crispin]

Agreed.

In sum, I thank you for your comments. I hope the video was also enlightening. Personally, I found it extremely concise and relevant to a correct understanding of current events.

Concise for sure, relevant absolutely. As to the correctness of the facts...I could not attest. What I found most enlightening was the role of the military. That is not covered in American media and had be a little stumped. The rest I had pieced together.

Crispin

 

[DizzyDigger]

What I am saying by my statement, is that, any time you make a definitive statement about another, are you not able to see, how that same statement can also apply to you(us/we, whatever) and our situation.
By that "in god we trust" thing, is that not like, the American slogan? So your statement could be dually applied to both "them" and "us". Shirly, you're not implying Obama thinks he's god? LOL! hehehe
I do know of Mohamed and his history, as well. (I wonder if they ever ran the biblecode on the koran, just curious, eh, another subject....)

Our "book" also teaches eye for eye, stoning, incest, etc.... I mean forgive me, ever READ the first couple a chapters? There is/was a lot a violence. Looking at it from a purely historical type stand point.
Frankn, this is why I always say, any time I make a definitive statement, there can always be a flip side to the coin, or the statement can or could be applied, right back at me/my situation/my case, whatever.
And, according to Jiddu Krishnamurta; "Once you define something, it becomes dead".

Eh, just words, ya'll have fun and be good.

Pat: The Bible takes more than simply reading to gain any understanding of WHAT it is saying.
My gut says you know this, but are simply being a bit cheeky for conversation sake.

IOW, How God dealt with mankind in the Old Testament is far different than He did in the New.

There is no way you can compare the cultures of radical Islam to "In God We Trust". A slogan
is one thing, a lifetime of being forced into bondage under "Islam" can not even be compared,
and is damn near laughable. No offense intended.

Here, a guy on the street in Chicago might run into a street preacher telling him about
the Bible, and (what the street preacher perceives) could be the ultimate end for the
guy listening.

Guy looks up and says "That's interesting, but I don't believe in your God, so bugger off!"

And then he walks away, stops at a bookstand and buys a copy of "Atheist Today"
magazine...and walks home.

In a Sharia Law country, the guy might have gotten the words .."... I don't believe in your God.."
out just moments before some Islamic zealot sounds the "Infidel Alarm", a crowd gathers quickly,
a few of the "men" hold the guy down, and then some schmuck walks in and takes his head off with
a scimitar.

Could you imagine some guy getting his head removed on the streets of Chicago simply for
saying he doesn't believe in God?

The Bible allows for FREE WILL, the Qur'an does not.

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BTW, I enjoy a good debate/discussion on religion so long as people keep things
respectful, and in context. The real truth is, not a one of us (anyone on the planet) is
going to know the absolute truth about "life after death" until they're dead.

The Bible says that Elijah, Lazarus and Christ all rose from the dead a couple thousand
years back, but since then I've met no one that has made the "round trip".

 

[onfire]

It's amazing that a theory like that is pervasive in America.
Anyone that doesn't fit the mold of "Guns, Money, and a White European Divine Being" must be a terrorist, so nuke 'em.
The middle east has little to do with life in America. You might want to consider that before you cast judgement on an entire people.

If this statement is true why is it on every news channel in the U.S. But you could be right Just ask John Kerry, You know the sailor.
Most terrorist's do have MONEY, GUNS, White? pretty close. Nuke em I don't think so I say just forget em.

 

[Frankn]

Please go on...I don't know much about dark matter. It was not taught to me. How does things being pulled up jive with Kepler's (not sure if it is one p or two) law of planetary motion?

The simple version: Picture a webb of elastic bands. Now push a marble in between two bands. They put pressure on the marble. That pushing in force represents gravity as defined by Einstine. Frank...
PS, dark matter is what fills space in theory. It has not been fulley defined. Hay, it's been years since I read his theories .

 

[Crispin]

The simple version: Picture a webb of elastic bands. Now push a marble in between two bands. They put pressure on the marble. That pushing in force represents gravity as defined by Einstine. Frank...
PS, dark matter is what fills space in theory. It has not been fulley defined. Hay, it's been years since I red his theories .

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You found the black swan! The heck with deductive logic, inductive it is....great picture choice. Can't argue with you on an inductive level. Well played sir, well played indeed.