Erie Canal (New York) Token??

[GoingDown]

Found recently under the dirt floor of a barn on a 1700"s estate in upstate New York....

Any thoughts??

Thanks!!

GD

 

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[G.A.P.metal]

That is one big token?? and a very nice find.
Gary

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Too big for my screen but it may be a "So-Called Dollar".

definition: http://www.socalleddollar.com/longdefinition.html

 

[garryson]

http://www.maineantiquedigest.com/medals/medalscolumn8.htm

 

[aka da Prof]

! yeah! way cool-- historic artifacts from New York!! great addition to your collection.
p.s.- in '86 I worked on a ©1600 farm house in Kerhonkson on the D&H canal----just a year before I got my first detector---drat!!! I did get a blue glaze marble from out of the wall, though!!--

 

[tokenhead]

Too big for my screen but it may be a "So-Called Dollar".

definition: http://www.socalleddollar.com/longdefinition.html

It is...HK 1...gold,silver&white metal.

 

[tokenhead]

Found recently under the dirt floor of a barn on a 1700"s estate in upstate New York....

Any thoughts??

Thanks!!

GD

Worth at least $1000.00..."so called dollar" HK1 As big cypress stated...

 

[GoingDown]

definitely not gold ... clearly a silver/white metal and VERY weighty!!! GD

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

definitely not gold ... clearly a silver/white metal and VERY weighty!!! GD

HK1 comes in 5 different metals. Could it be silver? or White Metal? http://www.socalleddollar.com/study1stED.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Unless Im reading it wrong, there were 57 white metal(WM) and 12 silver known in existence by the author Harold Hibler in 1963.

 

[tokenhead]

Here's a few numbers...If it's silver it's worth thousands(check HERITAGE AUCTIONS archives),in white metal up to $2000.000,At least 1 k...HH ALL !!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Man I would check some more under that barn. I would also find out what prominent citizen lived there. Only several hundred made.

Banner

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here's a few numbers...If it's silver it's worth thousands(check HERITAGE AUCTIONS archives),in white metal up to $2000.000,At least 1 k...HH ALL !!!

I just checked Heritage and according to condition they have sold between $517 uncertified to $9,775. There is one at auction right now. A gold one sold for $63,250!!
Condition is everything. Because of the small amount of damage, even not knowing the metal, I think it would go in the $500 range. Please do not clean it and congratulations on a nice find.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Look here and you will see that they made a bronze plated over white metal (BZplWM) and only 1 is known in existence by the author at the time of book publishing. Do I see a tint of bronze plating? http://www.socalleddollar.com/study1stED.html

The American Numismatic Society in New York has an HK 1 in copper/bronze. It is the only one known.

 

[tokenhead]

Look here and you will see that they made a bronze plated over white metal (BZplWM) and only 1 is known in existence by the author at the time of book publishing. Do I see a tint of bronze plating? http://www.socalleddollar.com/study1stED.html

The American Numismatic Society in New York has an HK 1 in copper/bronze. It is the only one known.

Alaway's good to hear your input big cypresshunter...You think ANS(NY.) had it restruck for them? Or somehow aquired the"Original" copper at a later date??..Doesn't really say in HIBLER/KAPPEN book.Just wondering..I love this SCD/TOKEN,Was out bid on EPAY on 2 so far...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Look here and you will see that they made a bronze plated over white metal (BZplWM) and only 1 is known in existence by the author at the time of book publishing. Do I see a tint of bronze plating? http://www.socalleddollar.com/study1stED.html

The American Numismatic Society in New York has an HK 1 in copper/bronze. It is the only one known.

Alaway's good to hear your input big cypresshunter...You think ANS(NY.) had it restruck for them? Or somehow aquired the"Original" copper at a later date??..Doesn't really say in HIBLER/KAPPEN book.Just wondering..I love this SCD/TOKEN,Was out bid on EPAY on 2 so far...

I dont know.

 

[tokenhead]

Found recently under the dirt floor of a barn on a 1700"s estate in upstate New York....

Any thoughts??

Thanks!!

GD

GREAT FIND i agee..BANNER !!!

 

[tokenhead]

Here's a few numbers...If it's silver it's worth thousands(check HERITAGE AUCTIONS archives),in white metal up to $2000.000,At least 1 k...HH ALL !!!

I just checked Heritage and according to condition they have sold between $517 uncertified to $9,775. There is one at auction right now. A gold one sold for $63,250!!
Condition is everything. Because of the small amount of damage, even not knowing the metal, I think it would go in the $500 range. Please do not clean it and congratulations on a nice find.

HA Has one listed now for 3/8-11 U.S.Coin Signature Auction MS60/NGC It's at $120.00 right now..It will go higher but as you stated before condition condition condition...HH