Etrac questions

Msdigger22 · Dec 15, 2015

I'm fixing to trade my xp deus for a used etrac. I've used the safari for almost a year before I got the deus and know the sounds really well for the safari. Is there much of a difference tonal wise or are they about the same. And I see everyone talking about ttf and 4 tone ferrous could some one explain that a little better. And last any good tips and pointers for a new etrac user. Thanks in advance and happy hunting

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Tedyoh · Dec 20, 2015

I wouldn't trade my used Deus for a new 3030 let alone an etrac, I have an etrac with 4 hours on it, hate it, send me a PM with what size coil you have and headphones you have with the Deus, may do a straight up trade with you.

Msdigger22 · Dec 20, 2015

Tedyoh said:
I wouldn't trade my used Deus for a new 3030 let alone an etrac, I have an etrac with 4 hours on it, hate it, send me a PM with what size coil you have and headphones you have with the Deus, may do a straight up trade with you.

What dont u like about the E trac? I've already made the swap but I've got hours and hours on the deus and love everything about it but in my opinion it's more geared towards relics than coins and I'm more of a coin hunter. Don't get me wrong I've found plenty of silver with it but it's target id is not as accurate as I would like to have digging on private property where I need to be picky about what I'm digging. And I've got a couple of fields that hold really deep coins that the deus won't even touch and yes I know how to squeeze every inch of depth from the deus but my old minelab safari could hit them.

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oneguy · Dec 21, 2015

Tedyoh said:
I have an etrac with 4 hours on it, hate it,

fairly new on this site and can't figure out how to PM you so I'll ask here.... :icon_scratch:

PM me if you want to sell the etrac....... thanks

Msdigger22 · Dec 21, 2015

oneguy said:
fairly new on this site and can't figure out how to PM you so I'll ask here....

PM me if you want to sell the etrac....... thanks

Click on his user name and u will see the message icon

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Tedyoh · Dec 21, 2015

Msdigger22 said:
What dont u like about the E trac? I've already made the swap but I've got hours and hours on the deus and love everything about it but in my opinion it's more geared towards relics than coins and I'm more of a coin hunter. Don't get me wrong I've found plenty of silver with it but it's target id is not as accurate as I would like to have digging on private property where I need to be picky about what I'm digging. And I've got a couple of fields that hold really deep coins that the deus won't even touch and yes I know how to squeeze every inch of depth from the deus but my old minelab safari could hit them.

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I'd agree with every point you've made except regarding depth, my test garden proves the Deus is just as deep (on hitting the coin with tone, not ID)

1st thing I do not like is the weight, not justified with performance and or end results and the biggest dislike is the target processing speed....oh... oh.... oh how slow.....I thought it was 2016 not 1992, is there a dial up modem in the etrac that process targets? A 66 MHz Intel processor?

Now if you are into hunting big open clean fields with little to no targets maybe the etrac is better, maybe.
I hunt old sites / foundations with heavy iron, in this day and age, where most sites have been cherry picked, in my opinion, this is where I need to hunt, where 98% of people don't want to be in, heavy iron and trash.

masterjedi · Dec 21, 2015

Tedyoh said:
I wouldn't trade my used Deus for a new 3030 let alone an etrac, I have an etrac with 4 hours on it, hate it, send me a PM with what size coil you have and headphones you have with the Deus, may do a straight up trade with you.

You hit it on the head...you only have 4 hours on it.

masterjedi · Dec 21, 2015

Msdigger22 said:
What dont u like about the E trac? I've already made the swap but I've got hours and hours on the deus and love everything about it but in my opinion it's more geared towards relics than coins and I'm more of a coin hunter. Don't get me wrong I've found plenty of silver with it but it's target id is not as accurate as I would like to have digging on private property where I need to be picky about what I'm digging. And I've got a couple of fields that hold really deep coins that the deus won't even touch and yes I know how to squeeze every inch of depth from the deus but my old minelab safari could hit them.

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You couldn't have said it better.

If you are not using an FBS machine you are just using a beep and dig detector. All other detectors VDI's are not accurate enough to know what your digging where the FBS machines, 95% of the time you know what you are digging. You can truly cherry pick and not have to dig every piece of foil, zinc etc. Sure at a very old site you dig it all but in a nice lawn you want to cherry pick only and that is where the FBS machines rule.

timelord · Dec 21, 2015

With Minelab FBS machines you need many hours to learn how to run them. It has taken many months to learn the Safari but I have found coins others have missed. The last two years I have found many first and a 4000 year old American copper spear point. Yes your coil has to go over it but with time you will truly enjoy a Minelab but you have to give it time......

Msdigger22 · Dec 22, 2015

timelord said:
With Minelab FBS machines you need many hours to learn how to run them. It has taken many months to learn the Safari but I have found coins others have missed. The last two years I have found many first and a 4000 year old American copper spear point. Yes your coil has to go over it but with time you will truly enjoy a Minelab but you have to give it time......

I had well over a couple hundred hrs on my safari and about half of those hrs were with out a screen(my lesche did a pretty good job at busting the screen) and could just about tell what I was about to dig up with the safari my silver count jumped tremendously over the at pro and when I switched to the deus my silver count went down but my relic count went up and most of the trashy places I've taken all my detectors to the deus didn't find anything except for at one church so I did pretty good with the safari and others or the coins are so masked that even the deus couldn't find them.

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Msdigger22 · Dec 22, 2015

Finally got the etrac and this is why I wanted it first 30 minutes with it 3 old coins

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Ammoman · Dec 22, 2015

I have about 20 hours on my E-trac. The first two hours gave me nothing. The second 2 hours fessed up a single nail, the next 4 hours gave me a silver dime and a couple dollars in clad at an old house site. The last 12 hours have given me about 25 dollars in clad at a local park. YES im getting better with every outing and the more i use it the more i find. My only complaint i have is the Weight distribution. It is for that reason alone that i will be switching (very soon) to the CTX-3030.

Msdigger22 · Dec 22, 2015

Ammoman said:
I have about 20 hours on my E-trac. The first two hours gave me nothing. The second 2 hours fessed up a single nail, the next 4 hours gave me a silver dime and a couple dollars in clad at an old house site. The last 12 hours have given me about 25 dollars in clad at a local park. YES im getting better with every outing and the more i use it the more i find. My only complaint i have is the Weight distribution. It is for that reason alone that i will be switching (very soon) to the CTX-3030.

I just pulled another barber and 2 more Indian head cents I think I'm clicking with it pretty good

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Jason in Enid · Dec 22, 2015

Tedyoh said:
I wouldn't trade my used Deus for a new 3030 let alone an etrac, I have an etrac with 4 hours on it, hate it, send me a PM with what size coil you have and headphones you have with the Deus, may do a straight up trade with you.

No single detector is right for everyone and I don't think people should keep using detectors they don't like, but 4 HOURS? Really? You barely took it out of the box before deciding how much you hate the detector?

When I got my E-Trac (my very first Minelab) I hated to use it. It was 100% different from all my past detectors (Garretts and Whites). I had zero confidence with it and felt I just missing all the good coins. I forced myself to use only it until I had really learned it before I made my final decision. Like I said, 4 hours in I hated my purchase. 10 hours in I was feeling a lot better and actually liked it. 100 hours in and I wouldn't change it for anything until the CTX came out.

Regardless of what detector you buy, you have to actually learn it.

Msdigger22 · Dec 22, 2015

Jason in Enid said:
No single detector is right for everyone and I don't think people should keep using detectors they don't like, but 4 HOURS? Really? You barely took it out of the box before deciding how much you hate the detector?

When I got my E-Trac (my very first Minelab) I hated to use it. It was 100% different from all my past detectors (Garretts and Whites). I had zero confidence with it and felt I just missing all the good coins. I forced myself to use only it until I had really learned it before I made my final decision. Like I said, 4 hours in I hated my purchase. 10 hours in I was feeling a lot better and actually liked it. 100 hours in and I wouldn't change it for anything until the CTX came out.

Regardless of what detector you buy, you have to actually learn it.

If I want to run a wide open screen in multi tones do I need to use ferrous sound or Conductive

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Jason in Enid · Dec 22, 2015

Msdigger22 said:
...... And last any good tips and pointers for a new etrac user. Thanks in advance and happy hunting

Read THIS thread: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/minelab/318871-can-someone-help-me-e-trac-please.html

It has a LOT of help for new E-Trac owners!

DeepseekerADS · Dec 22, 2015

I'll add my experience as well.

I HATED my Etrac the first 20 hours or so, and then I started picking up on what it was saying - the sounds. Of course I went on to the CTX with a whole lot more confidence. I'd dug everything for a while, lot's of foil, rusty nails, etc.

And then I was able to cherry pick through the trash, in doubts I dug it anyway.

My only complaint on the Etrac was the weight. The CTX is easier to handle on the respect. If you get the Etrac, get some kinda swingy halter thing.

Another trait to consider is that these are slow swing machines. You're not going to be successful out there swinging it like we did the old White's Coinmasters like we did in the early 80's.

Tedyoh · Dec 22, 2015

Jason in Enid said:
No single detector is right for everyone and I don't think people should keep using detectors they don't like, but 4 HOURS? Really? You barely took it out of the box before deciding how much you hate the detector?

When I got my E-Trac (my very first Minelab) I hated to use it. It was 100% different from all my past detectors (Garretts and Whites). I had zero confidence with it and felt I just missing all the good coins. I forced myself to use only it until I had really learned it before I made my final decision. Like I said, 4 hours in I hated my purchase. 10 hours in I was feeling a lot better and actually liked it. 100 hours in and I wouldn't change it for anything until the CTX came out.

Regardless of what detector you buy, you have to actually learn it.

Its too slow in the iron, nothing you can do can change this fact. I like being in the iron, I don't hunt salt water so it just isn't for me.

Tedyoh · Dec 22, 2015

Msdigger22 said:
If I want to run a wide open screen in multi tones do I need to use ferrous sound or Conductive

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Conductive if i remember correctly...

Msdigger22 · Dec 22, 2015

pretty good start with the Etrac I think. I ran it mostly in the stock coin mode with manual sensitivity all the way to 30 the 3 barber dimes,buffalo nickel and Indian head pennies were all as deep as the pinpointer or deeper but gave solid tone and numbers in a fairly clean field. I got the merc running TTF at a church I went to a hundred times with the deus and a bunch of other detectors I pulled 3 nails out of edge of the hole with the merc so I don't guess it's too bad in the iron thanks for the advice guys

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