Filing a claim in Ca

[Fiery Creations]

I'm on the .gov site trying to file a claim and I'm confused. Few questions.

Are there areas that can't be claimed on BLM land? I see a nearby claim but I'm shocked the areas I want aren't claimed.

I get an error message saying I'm only allowed 20 acres per person, but the plot it's allowing me to click is over 40. Can I just register two of my friends and get it? Is there a way to split the plot smaller?

How do I get the CoL? I've tried looking on my county's site, but there is no form. Other counties nearby have them online.


Bonus question....if I can, is it even worth it? It's way back in a canyon and I can't imagine many if any people are going to care about staying off it that far hidden away.

 

[southfork]

This will help you. http://www.mylandmatters.org/

 

[Fiery Creations]

Been on there and can't find an answer. Called the county recorder who had no idea. Left messages with BLM. No luck.

This is all I can find. They don't appear to have the forms. Can I just fill this out by hand and give it to them? No one there has a clue about any of this...

MLRS Virtual Public Room

mlrs.blm.gov

 

[et1955]

I'm on the .gov site trying to file a claim and I'm confused. Few questions.

Are there areas that can't be claimed on BLM land? I see a nearby claim but I'm shocked the areas I want aren't claimed.

I get an error message saying I'm only allowed 20 acres per person, but the plot it's allowing me to click is over 40. Can I just register two of my friends and get it? Is there a way to split the plot smaller?

How do I get the CoL? I've tried looking on my county's site, but there is no form. Other counties nearby have them online.


Bonus question....if I can, is it even worth it? It's way back in a canyon and I can't imagine many if any people are going to care about staying off it tha

 

[et1955]

Did you go to area that you want to claim and mark and record the boundary's and also did you discover gold in the area. This cannot be done on the internet, boots on the ground. Ounce that has been done then you go to the county recorder's office and search weather that land is open for claiming and file with them, ounce that is done ,you then file with the BLM, they will tell you one thing, Due Diligence, it is all up to you to prove your claim to them, they will take your money no matter what. Due Diligence is on you. If you file on someone's claim, you are in big trouble. You can buy a claim on the internet but filing and proving a claim on the internet is not possible.

 

[Fiery Creations]

Did you go to area that you want to claim and mark and record the boundary's and also did you discover gold in the area. This cannot be done on the internet, boots on the ground. Ounce that has been done then you go to the county recorder's office and search weather that land is open for claiming and file with them, ounce that is done ,you then file with the BLM, they will tell you one thing, Due Diligence, it is all up to you to prove your claim to them, they will take your money no matter what. Due Diligence is on you. If you file on someone's claim, you are in big trouble. You can buy a claim on the internet but filing and proving a claim on the internet is not possible.

Yes, I’ve had boots on ground there and discovered lots of gold. Why would I mark the boundaries before hits mine? Wouldn’t that be illegal and backwards?


Thanks for the reply. I’ll try going into their office in person. Maybe I’m not understanding the boundary thing. I was using the MLS site and clicking on the plot they have. Can I make a Size and shape that isn’t already recorded on that system?

 

[OreList]

Acreage, land status and filing steps first. Then a conservative scenario worksheet is one input to “is it worth it,” clearly separate from access/permitting/profit: https://orelist.com/tools/mining-claim-value-calculator

 

[Assembler]

Acreage, land status and filing steps first. Then a conservative scenario worksheet is one input to “is it worth it,” clearly separate from access/permitting/profit: https://orelist.com/tools/mining-claim-value-calculator

What about "Discovery" / non-work assessment for the minerals?

 

[Assembler]

Did you go to area that you want to claim and mark and record the boundary's and also did you discover gold in the area. This cannot be done on the internet, boots on the ground. Ounce that has been done then you go to the county recorder's office and search weather that land is open for claiming and file with them, ounce that is done ,you then file with the BLM, they will tell you one thing, Due Diligence, it is all up to you to prove your claim to them, they will take your money no matter what. Due Diligence is on you. If you file on someone's claim, you are in big trouble. You can buy a claim on the internet but filing and proving a claim on the internet is not possible.

The internet claim (paper claim) sale is likely not an active "Claim".
The Due diligence "Claim" is not done with the internet sale.
The proving process requirements are not done with the internet sale.

Excellent points you make. Thanks.

 

[Mine Shaft]

When found Gold and wanted to stake a claim I called BLM long story short I faxed Joan a rough area where I wanted it and faxed it to her she helped me in so many ways its not funny lol. After I had all needed paperwork it was off to the County Recorder. I put my monument marker up where I found Gold no need to mark all four corners she stated. There is more to it but keep calling BLM for someone that can help you they helped me no problem that's there job. Good luck.

 

[BoulderTroll]

I'm on the .gov site trying to file a claim and I'm confused. Few questions.

Are there areas that can't be claimed on BLM land? I see a nearby claim but I'm shocked the areas I want aren't claimed.

I get an error message saying I'm only allowed 20 acres per person, but the plot it's allowing me to click is over 40. Can I just register two of my friends and get it? Is there a way to split the plot smaller?

How do I get the CoL? I've tried looking on my county's site, but there is no form. Other counties nearby have them online.


Bonus question....if I can, is it even worth it? It's way back in a canyon and I can't imagine many if any people are going to care about staying off it that far hidden away.

Seems like some of your questions didn’t get answered.

Yes, there are areas of land that look open, but cannot be claimed. The nice people at the BLM sent me some detailed info when I tried to claim a spot that was part of a land exchange. When you are looking at the layers on MLRS, make sure to click the “Land tenure” block.

The BLM site definitely isn’t perfect when it comes to mapping the location. You can get it down to 20 acres. I did it before, just don’t remember how. But there are tons of claims that have ~160 acres highlighted, but only for 20acre claim. It’s really annoying to try and find out what area is actually claimed.

Some counties have specific paperwork for CoL. for mine, there wasn’t. I just found a generic form online that has all the required information. Just make sure it has the info the BLM wants.

I also work some areas that are a pretty decent hike from a road. After filing a claim once and finding out it cost over $500 in this county, I decided it was unnecessary. First of all, it’s not rich enough for that kind of return on investment. And second, I didn’t want to draw extra attention to it.

Good luck to you!