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finally! a return to the shoddy field...

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As those of you who live here in the northeast know, the weather hasn't been very cooperative for detecting this spring. Did manage to get out a couple weeks ago to my favorite old lots and picked up my first silver of the season...

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Sure felt good to see that shiny ring and the shiny rims of silver coins against the dark earth, feels like it's been months (because it has!).

Went out for a quickie last week with Berkshire Mike (my brother) to an old field I've had some interest in. I found a 1780 reale last summer there, so I know there's more to be had, and sure enough Mike finds a seated dime in no time (see his post from last week). I didn't have the same luck unfortunately, but there's a lot of ground to cover there, so we'll be back soon.

Yesterday my Dad was in town, so he joined Mike and myself at a shoddy field near one of the local lakes for a few hours. I had never heard of this type of field, where farmers used old clothing to fertilize and aerate the soil, but thanks to one of this site's members we were able to get more information on why we were finding so many buttons in such a focused area. Literally every couple feet we'd be digging buttons, the bulk of which were small two- and four-hole underwear buttons (see the image below). In the past I had found several Seated coins in these fields, as well as some old Canadian halfpennies. We're certain this field has more to give up. Sure enough, not long after we got there, my father found a nice '20 SLQ, and within minutes I got that unmistakable coin tone and was rewarded with a beautiful 1875s dime. Not three feet away I found a really nice condition 1884 IH. Between the three of us we ended up with two seated dimes, a merc, two IH's, a Barber dime, a Standing Liberty, about a million little buttons, as well as an array of interesting individual buttons, including what could be several military buttons (any help with identification highly appreciated)...

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Anyhow, I'm really glad to have had the time to get out with the both of them, and also that I finally had something to post here after being out of the loop for so long. Hope to be contributing here on a more regular basis now that the season has begun....

Thanks for looking, happy hunting,
Steve
 
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great finds for sure,, all of them...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
Wow, what a great bunch of coins! Not to mention all the old buttons. Keep digging and posting your finds.

HH
 
That's not a shoddy field...that's a field of dreams.
Way to go on your finds, they are great!!!
 
Wow, great looking finds, especially those buttons. Could you post a close-up of the military looking button located in the second row from the top, second from the right. It appears to have an eagle on it?
 
What great finds, Looks like you found the mother load. I have never heard of this type of thing...way too cool....Keep them comming...TnT...
 
Bookfisher-
Thanks for your interest. Here's a little closer view...

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Backmark is illegible without cleaning it up, which I'm afraid to do. The only letters I can make out on the ribbon on front are the last 3-4, "yons". Any ideas you have on this one I'd love to hear...
Thanks again,
Steve
 
Quote: "I had never heard of this type of field, where farmers used old clothing to fertilize and aerate the soil, but thanks to one of this site's members we were able to get more information on why we were finding so many buttons in such a focused area."
I'm uneducated on this farming practice. It seems to me old clothing would be an effective weed-blocker, but don't understand how clothes could either fertilize or aerate soil. I'm not being critical but merely seeking information, as I'm trying to decide weather to take my old shirts to Goodwill or to help out my garden.
 
Well I learned something new today. :) Never heard of that either. Keep finding those buttons!!! Great finds and glad you all were able to get out and hunt again!

Congrats! Nana :)
 
nhbenz-
thanks for the info on the button, I kind of figured it was military in nature...

I'm as curious as you are regarding the history of this practice, I've searched the web for information but haven't been able to come up with very much. I remember it having something to do with the hemp and lanolin in old textiles, among other things...
Steve
 
...and then there was this reference I found...from Susan Strasser's book "A Social History of Trash"...

"Woolen fiber refuse that could not be used in textile manufacture found other applications. Seams cut out of fabric were left to rot and used as fertilizer....it was principally the lanolin with which the clippings were naturally saturated that gave them there fertilizing property. Even the dust created by shoddy manufacture could be used as fertilizer. In short, "not a single thing belonging to the rag and shoddy system is valueless"....S.M. Hunt wrote in his recollection of the Chicago rag business that "I remember giving a farmer enough choice soft woolens to fill a car, to take them out of my way. He spread them on his land for manure"...

the book goes on to describe the so-called "shoddy" industry, and the emergence of small independent mills to deal with the scraps of clothing....

Steve
 
Wow, way to go!! ;D
 
Awesome spot.......wtg
 
They are some fantastic finds. Keep pounding that site, and good luck
 
sounds like you guys had a good day made better with all those great finds congrats and hh
 
Yes that broken button you have has an eagle with a shield and an "A" in the middle which stood for Artillery. This was a general service button worn by the North soldiers during the Civil War. I got one myself with a "C" in the middle for Cavalry.

VERY NICE FIND ;) ;)

But that Civil War "Corp of Engineers" Button is worth quite a bit more....Also a great find!!!!

Good Job!!! ;D
 

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