First buttplates, spur and possible cut Spanish Reale!!!

[jwarner51]

Hey everyone, the weather was nice yesterday so I was able to get out to a campground from the 1830'-1850's. I personally found 2 buttplates and my two friends found 2 each. Along with those is a spur, ramrod guide, and the a homemade pewter whistle which works. I also found these lead bars only a few are pictured. And any idea on what those buttons are called.
What has me intrigued is this small cut piece of silver. It has been holed 3 times and tested positive for silver. From what I read 2 reales were 25mm and that measures out right for this since a quarter is 25mm and it fits on a quarter quite well. It is paper thin and I still need to clean it. What do you guys think? I have never found one before and will post pics after cleaning.

 

[CRUSADER]

Looks a little like trade silver to me.

 

[jwarner51]

Looks a little like trade silver to me.

What makes you say that? I'm just trying to learn.

 

[CRUSADER]

What makes you say that? I'm just trying to learn.

Because its not cut right for a coin & it has a small hole which would make it perfect for a Native American Hair Trinket.

 

[jwarner51]

 

[jwarner51]

Would that explain the thinness as well?

 

[CRUSADER]

Yeap, you just proved why it not a cut coin because its not cut on the diameter lines.

 

[CRUSADER]

Would that explain the thinness as well?

Easy, decorative, shinny jewelry like objects would be thin.

 

[jwarner51]

Easy, decorative, shinny jewelry like objects would be thin.

Okay thanks! Still an intersting find!

 

[coinman123]

Okay thanks! Still an intersting find!

IMHO cooler than a cut reale.

 

[park pirate]

Nice hunt...

 

[CRUSADER]

Okay thanks! Still an intersting find!

'IF' its trade silver its a much cooler find!

 

[jwarner51]

IMHO cooler than a cut reale.

Yeah I'll still post a pic after cleaning! I was just hoping for a real because here in the western U.S. they never pop up. I've only ever heard of one being dug here

 

[Fullstock]

Interesting finds, the two buttplates are from civilian longrifles (Kentucky Rifles), was this a military site?

 

[metalev4]

Nice finds. The trade silver is unique for sure

 

[jwarner51]

Interesting finds, the two buttplates are from civilian longrifles (Kentucky Rifles), was this a military site?

No it was not. Just civilian.

 

[jwarner51]

Here it is after electrolysis. Its not flat like a coin but looks rather hammered maybe from getting eaten away or from someone flattening it? Idk, no way to identify it as a coin. I tried a paper tracing but no luck.

 

[CRUSADER]

So it had 3 attachments, must be some kind of adornment

 

[jwarner51]

So it had 3 attachments, must be some kind of adornment

Yep must have. Still a good day. Any idea what that brass tag looking idem is? It has a hole in the center and no writing so maybe a gun part?

 

[CRUSADER]

Yep must have. Still a good day. Any idea what that brass tag looking idem is? It has a hole in the center and no writing so maybe a gun part?

Sorry, hard to tell but I think not.