Flea market finds

[Vermont treasure hunter]

Went to my local flea market to day and got some good stuff.
The bottles are all small French liquor bottles, the book thing is a coin bank for paying of like fe insurance, the cigar box dates back from the early 20th C, and the knife has a date of 1847 and is made by Rogers Bros and ...

 

[camichael]

FYI the 1847 Rogers Bros is a pattern that was first introduced in 1922. Sorry but it is silver plate. All Rogers Bros sterling is marked sterling.

 

[Vermont treasure hunter]

I new about it not being sterling

 

[Red-Coat]

Save for the fact that what you have will be silver plate if the maker’s mark doesn’t include the word “sterling”, the info in post #2 is not correct.

There is a huge amount of confusion about pieces from the Rogers family and associated companies using the name (often with no family connection but the result of an endless succession of off-shoots, mergers, buy-outs etc) such that many sources misleadingly quote dates which only relate to a particular ‘Rogers’ company.

The “1847 Rogers Bros.” mark was first used in 1862, although not registered as a protected trademark until 1935. There was a second registration for the same mark, but in a bolder typeface in 1948 (that mark having first been used in 1916).

“1847 Rogers Bros.” is not a pattern. It’s a brand name, for which there are dozens of patterns pre-dating 1922 and all the way back to at least 1862… all in silver plate. The ‘1847’ part of the branding takes its cues from Rogers’ development of a process for electroplating onto base metal in that year.

The possible dating for your knife will come from a combination of the actual pattern and perhaps also the typeface style of the mark… since there were, as I said, two styles with different usage periods. If you can show decent pictures of front-of-handle pattern and rear-of-handle mark then I might be able to help more.

[For info only, “1847 Rogers Bros. Sterling” was also registered as a trademark in a script-style lettering in 1940 (it’s first year of use) and that will be Sterling silver.]

 

[ARC]

Save for the fact that what you have will be silver plate if the maker’s mark doesn’t include the word “sterling”, the info in post #2 is not correct.

There is a huge amount of confusion about pieces from the Rogers family and associated companies using the name (often with no family connection but the result of an endless succession of off-shoots, mergers, buy-outs etc) such that many sources misleadingly quote dates which only relate to a particular ‘Rogers’ company.

The “1847 Rogers Bros.” mark was first used in 1862, although not registered as a protected trademark until 1935. There was a second registration for the same mark, but in a bolder typeface in 1948 (that mark having first been used in 1916).

“1847 Rogers Bros.” is not a pattern. It’s a brand name, for which there are dozens of patterns pre-dating 1922 and all the way back to at least 1862… all in silver plate. The ‘1847’ part of the branding takes its cues from Rogers’ development of a process for electroplating onto base metal in that year.

The possible dating for your knife will come from a combination of the actual pattern and perhaps also the typeface style of the mark… since there were, as I said, two styles with different usage periods. If you can show decent pictures of front-of-handle pattern and rear-of-handle mark then I might be able to help more.

[For info only, “1847 Rogers Bros. Sterling” was also registered as a trademark in a script-style lettering in 1940 (it’s first year of use) and that will be Sterling silver.]

The companies in which one or more of the original Rogers brothers (William, Asa and Simeon) were actively interested, in existence in the 1930s (or at least the brands carrying their name), and the dates they were organized are as follows: Rogers Brothers, Hartford, in 1847; Rogers, Smith & Co., Hartford, in 1856; Rogers & Brother, Waterbury, in 1858; William Rogers Mfg. Co. (Wm. Rogers & Son), Hartford, in 1865; Rogers Cutlery Co., Hartford, in 1871.
These concerns, as well as the Meriden Britannia Co. which beginning in 1862 continued the production of "1847 Rogers Bros", are all of the concerns in which the three original brothers have been connected and at various times have become part of the lnternational Silver Co. All three of the partners, William, Asa and Simeon, were in the employ of the Meriden Britannia Co. when they died.

 

[ARC]

For all American made silverware after 1890, if it’s not marked Sterling then it is silver plate.

 

[ARC]

PS... Most of it was made in 1922.. the "jubilee year"... commemorating the 1847 invention of silver plating... Developed BY Rogers.

 

[Vermont treasure hunter]

Better pics of knife.

 

[Red-Coat]

PS... Most of it was made in 1922.. the "jubilee year"... commemorating the 1847 invention of silver plating... Developed BY Rogers.

I would say more accurately that the "1847 Rogers Bros." brand came to popular prominence from 1922 onwards, fuelled by the 'jubilee' promotion but also following a sustained advertising campaign that started during the earlier 1900s, sometimes referenced as one of the most successful advertising campaigns in history. In 1912, Rogers Brothers created the "1847 Girl" as a picture of 19th Century innocence and beauty using a girl called Stella Brooks of Meriden, Connecticut as their model and poster-child. She was chosen "because she had a slight resemblance to the Mona Lisa in her smile, and a suggestion of a ‘come hither' look in her glance"; her image dominated magazine ads, postcards, and brochures for decades, and she was shipped round the country in person to pose in store windows.

I'm currently looking at just over 100 flatware patterns which were used under the "1847 Rogers Bros." brand during the late 1800s, before the brand became popularised and narrowed down to a smaller number of patterns produced in higher volumes.

 

[Red-Coat]

Better pics of knife.View attachment 1859895View attachment 1859896View attachment 1859897

That helps.

The pattern is known as "Assyrian" and was introduced in 1887.

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Some nice purchases, congrats!

 

[Trezurehunter]

That Cigar box brings back memories. My Grandpa use to smoke those, and we would get his empty boxes to use for our crayons and school supplies back in the 60's and early 70's. Nice finds.

 

[Joe-Dirt]

Have you ever hit the flea market in Waterbury VT? A buddy of mine lives close by and we go there often. I’ve picked up some nice old .22 rifles there very cheap back in the 90’s. Haven’t been in a year or 2 but it usually has some cool stuff. Nice job