Fleur de le token? Any ideas?

[Recoveredmol]

Any ideas what it is?

35 on my nox 700

Not magnetic. 12 grams. Looks like pewter.

 

[Recoveredmol]

35 on my nox 700

Not magnetic. 12 grams.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Pretty cool !

 

[oldmxrat]

I have no idea, but it's a cool find, congrats!

 

[scruggs]

Not sure but an interesting find!

 

[Digger RJ]

Any ideas what it is?

35 on my nox 700

Not magnetic. 12 grams. Looks like pewter.

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[CRUSADER]

A fleur-de-lis Lead Token is pretty common, I've probably had about 50, but it is a very nicely moulded example!

 

[Recoveredmol]

A fleur-de-lis Lead Token is pretty common, I've probably had about 50, but it is a very nicely moulded example!

are you in Europe?

 

[CRUSADER]

are you in Europe?

UK.
I should have added, they are common here, but I've hardly seen any Lead Tokens posted in the US, even though they were used up until the late 18th C/Mid 19th C.

 

[CRUSADER]

http://hwiccianarchaeology.com/lead-token-little-witley/

Lead Tokens - Token Corresponding Society

Lead Tokens Lead tokens appear to have been used in Britain from the late-13th cent to the early-mid 19th. The former period is the one during which fractional denominations were first introduced, rather than using pennies alone and chopping into halves and quarters, whilst the latter is the...

thetokensociety.org.uk

Here is a selection of Lead Tokens, as you can see yours is very well defined in comparison.

 

[Recoveredmol]

UK.
I should have added, they are common here, but I've hardly seen any Lead Tokens posted in the US, even though they were used up until the late 18th C/Mid 19th C.

That makes more sense. I've done a lot of research to try to identify this. Trading token has been the closest thing so far. From what I've read, they made them in a variety of designs so it may be hard to match mine 100% with another one.

 

[Kona Koma]

Any ideas what it is?

35 on my nox 700

Not magnetic. 12 grams. Looks like pewter.

Nice find. Not sure.

 

[Almy]

That's a big value of this site. I had no idea what it was either until Crusader commented. It's so nice to have informed and pleasant help.

 

[CRUSADER]

That makes more sense. I've done a lot of research to try to identify this. Trading token has been the closest thing so far. From what I've read, they made them in a variety of designs so it may be hard to match mine 100% with another one.

Nearly impossible to match.
I work with one of the leading book writers on this subject & no-one knows who made them or where. Because anyone with a shop could produce any design they liked.
I've found a few of the same type that might suggest they were locally made but thats the only conclusion we can make, even though many have initials & some have dates!

 

[Recoveredmol]

Nearly impossible to match.
I work with one of the leading book writers on this subject & no-one knows who made them or where. Because anyone with a shop could produce any design they liked.
I've found a few of the same type that might suggest they were locally made but thats they only conclusion we can make, even though many have initials & some have dates!

I am working with a french history professor to try to identify this find. So far he thinks that it's a french trading token but he's going to do more research and then get back to me.

 

[Recoveredmol]

http://hwiccianarchaeology.com/lead-token-little-witley/

Lead Tokens - Token Corresponding Society

Lead Tokens Lead tokens appear to have been used in Britain from the late-13th cent to the early-mid 19th. The former period is the one during which fractional denominations were first introduced, rather than using pennies alone and chopping into halves and quarters, whilst the latter is the...

thetokensociety.org.uk

Here is a selection of Lead Tokens, as you can see yours is very well defined in comparison.

This is the closest token that resembles mine that I've found online. I had to search using french terms to find this. This one is from the 14th century.

 

[CRUSADER]

I am working with a french history professor to try to identify this find. So far he thinks that it's a french trading token but he's going to do more research and then get back to me.

I've found many Fleur-de-lis types & they have no French connection, so it might be a rabbit hole.

 

[CRUSADER]

Here are a few of mine & 1 similar to yours circled;

 

[Recoveredmol]

I've found many Fleur-de-lis types & they have no French connection, so it might be a rabbit hole.

I found the insignia that is on the back of my token by searching for Joan of Arc medallions. The back of this medallion has the same imagery as the back of my token. So I'm thinking it is french origin.

Unfortunately, when I google search this imagery...that joan of arc medallion is the only thing that pops up. I wish I could find where this insignia comes from.

 

[CRUSADER]

I found the insignia that is on the back of my token by searching for Joan of Arc medallions. The back of this medallion has the same imagery as the back of my token. So I'm thinking it is french origin.

Unfortunately, when I google search this imagery...that joan of arc medallion is the only thing that pops up. I wish I could find where this insignia comes from.

Yes, the coat of arms is a better research avenue.