Friday’s Finds xx

[blossom]

A little Friday night treat for you, today we had a day off and snuck back up to the race course! I just love this field!
We won’t be detecting this weekend as we are hosting the Basset Paw-Ty.. so busy prepping tomoz for the show on Sunday! 😆

Let me start you off with this tiny but pretty dress fastener 😍 then himself found his first seal…he was beyond excited! Then I found a weight, then part of a buckle, thimble top and a curious piece, the 2 buttons with the thread still attached and a cuff link, part of a stinking buckle, plan buckle and bit of a buckle, buttons, tack pin, workings blobs and a curved bit, ammo, bobbin shot, 17 musket balls, 4 toasted pre dec coins, and I found another half hammered!

The perfect way to spend a day off work! xx

 

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[scruggs]

Your still finding good stuff, good hunt and pictures!

 

[releventchair]

Wow!
Enough bullets to start , or end something...
(A while back I tried looking up bobbin bullets and found surprisingly little here. On craptastic Bing search anyways.)

Another seal. (!) Congrats on such a personal but significant piece. A button could be personal. But...where's my seal might leave the loser a bit more fraught with anxiety perhaps.
Congrats on the prior one as well. I'm behind apparently.. Here , let me don my surprised face.

Buttons and buckles and things that held things together amidst a people holding things together. All with more or less success.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Great finds and a great looking place to hunt for sure !

 

[Almy]

Note to RC: As I recall, Blossom found quite a few of what she called bobbin shot before I helped ID them. We don't have them in North America that I know of and it would be nice to know what they were used for and in what type of gun in England.
Blossom: Metal detecting is hard work! But it's so much fun, we don't notice. It would be nice if work work was so much fun we didn't notice!

 

[Kona Koma]

A little Friday night treat for you, today we had a day off and snuck back up to the race course! I just love this field!
We won’t be detecting this weekend as we are hosting the Basset Paw-Ty.. so busy prepping tomoz for the show on Sunday! 😆

Let me start you off with this tiny but pretty dress fastener 😍 then himself found his first seal…he was beyond excited! Then I found a weight, then part of a buckle, thimble top and a curious piece, the 2 buttons with the thread still attached and a cuff link, part of a stinking buckle, plan buckle and bit of a buckle, buttons, tack pin, workings blobs and a curved bit, ammo, bobbin shot, 17 musket balls, 4 toasted pre dec coins, and I found another half hammered!

The perfect way to spend a day off work! xx
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Great finds! What type of race course?

 

[pepperj]

Congrats to himself for the lovely seal. It leaves quite the impression.
Another cut half be you well done.
Liking the weight, it's in great condition.

Best of luck on the setup and event.

 

[CRUSADER]

Not seen that imperial stamp on a pan-weight before. Nice

 

[Gulf Coast Pirate]

Awesome blossom!

 

[Blackfoot58]

The seal is a very special find.

 

[The Rebel]

Love the seal.

 

[oldmxrat]

Great bunch of finds once again, congrats!

 

[blossom]

Great finds! What type of race course?

Thank you! It’s an old horse race course, the track is still round the outside of the field, here is an aerial shot, race horses still use it for training. I included the history on the post I did on the 24th sept xx

 

[blossom]

The seal I believe says …. Prive Sv (French) meaning I am private, and I think dates from the 14th c. Will give to the FLO as would love to know more about it if possible. xx

 

[blossom]

Wow!
Enough bullets to start , or end something...
(A while back I tried looking up bobbin bullets and found surprisingly little here. On craptastic Bing search anyways.)

Another seal. (!) Congrats on such a personal but significant piece. A button could be personal. But...where's my seal might leave the loser a bit more fraught with anxiety perhaps.
Congrats on the prior one as well. I'm behind apparently.. Here , let me don my surprised face.

Buttons and buckles and things that held things together amidst a people holding things together. All with more or less success.

Hey RC! link with more details to follow, shot as @Almy said Bobbin or Capstan shot xx

Search results from the database Page: 1

finds.org.uk

 

[blossom]

Not seen that imperial stamp on a pan-weight before. Nice

Ahh I am delighted to have found something new for you! 😆 xx

 

[blossom]

The weight weighs… 54gms. The imperial units replaced the Winchester Standards, which were in effect from 1588 to 1825. The system came into official use across the British Empire in 1826 xx

 

[releventchair]

Hey RC! link with more details to follow, shot as @Almy said Bobbin or Capstan shot xx

Search results from the database Page: 1

finds.org.uk

Getting closer to understanding...
More power is mentioned repeatedly.
Perhaps eluding to less blow by of burning propellent. By the rear/lower part of bullet being expanded when lead is soft enough (pure lead or near) and powder charge sufficient enough to upset the lead. Leaving the top to meander about and find it's way, driven from behind.
BUT , being a duplicate of the rear /bottom before being loaded , doesn't require a sorting out of which end is up while under assault and hurriedly reloading?

Whilst so much later herein the states we "patched" roundballs to great effect. Which left barrels as they were fired not actually round in a good load in which the gasses from burning powder were kept from getting around the lead.
Yet there is a difference than just ramming a projectile down bore. Adding the gasket to the process/equation.
Then too smooth bore vs rifled bore...
And then a Frenchman named Minie designed a projectile that acknowledged what goes on in a bore with a good load. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minié_ball
And eliminated needing a tight patch to gasket it.
Simply by having a skirt that could flare/expand from the burning gasses pressure to seal the bore. Which when compared to the new to me capstan or bobbin shot in smoothbore....Hints that Minie wasn't as ignorant as I of all historic designs uses and applications.!

Fired examples of bobbin shot suggest a flaring/expansion of the rear portions .
I didn't find examples of modern shooting of them to know if as suspected they tumbled after a ways. And did they make a different noise in flight? than roundballs?

Old country. Old battles. Old ways. But back then the latest and greatest weapons... And projectiles!

A Yankee reference and hardly a note turns up some bobbin shot.
Long a shooter of black powder and part time wannabe historical participant I've shot stuff designed from mid 16 hundreds forward.
Never encountered a bobbin shot though...
And didn't read this article in the past.
Though woodsrunning stuff was read a bit.

More on Small Shot for Smoothbores.

5.7mm - 5.8mm diameter (o/all length of strip is 78mm)." River Thames find. http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1590; ...

woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com

 

[Digger RJ]

A little Friday night treat for you, today we had a day off and snuck back up to the race course! I just love this field!
We won’t be detecting this weekend as we are hosting the Basset Paw-Ty.. so busy prepping tomoz for the show on Sunday! 😆

Let me start you off with this tiny but pretty dress fastener 😍 then himself found his first seal…he was beyond excited! Then I found a weight, then part of a buckle, thimble top and a curious piece, the 2 buttons with the thread still attached and a cuff link, part of a stinking buckle, plan buckle and bit of a buckle, buttons, tack pin, workings blobs and a curved bit, ammo, bobbin shot, 17 musket balls, 4 toasted pre dec coins, and I found another half hammered!

The perfect way to spend a day off work! xx
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Awesome!!! Congrats!!!!

 

[Coinstar magnet]

A little Friday night treat for you, today we had a day off and snuck back up to the race course! I just love this field!
We won’t be detecting this weekend as we are hosting the Basset Paw-Ty.. so busy prepping tomoz for the show on Sunday! 😆

Let me start you off with this tiny but pretty dress fastener 😍 then himself found his first seal…he was beyond excited! Then I found a weight, then part of a buckle, thimble top and a curious piece, the 2 buttons with the thread still attached and a cuff link, part of a stinking buckle, plan buckle and bit of a buckle, buttons, tack pin, workings blobs and a curved bit, ammo, bobbin shot, 17 musket balls, 4 toasted pre dec coins, and I found another half hammered!

The perfect way to spend a day off work! xx
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I think the mushroom pic is my favorite. . Great angle! All great recoveries of course!