Geofact or Artifact

[itzyoboyandrew]

Been a lot of debate in the indian fourms, so at there request ill post it here... People legitimately think this is a glob of pebbles... Please input your opinions.



I posted zoomed in pics aswell as it in someones hand. Its about half an inch long. Found with a metal detector.

 

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[wilfndgold1]

Obviously not a glob of pebbles.

 

[galenrog]

You have put this item in at least 3 threads here. PLEASE take it to a qualified professional for evaluation.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

You have put this item in at least 3 threads here. PLEASE take it to a qualified professional for evaluation.

I have... they said it looks like a pendant but there not sure if its indian, i have emailed another archaeologist i met at a historical society, still waiting for a response.. while i listen to the historian about the pendant some people want to assume its a natural rock... which led me here..

 

[quito]

Let's be accurate Andrew. Nobody called it a glob of pebbles now did they? I called it a cool conglomeration of a pebble for lack of a better term, not as a physical description. I know artifacts pretty well, not geofacts.
Now, if you want honest opinions, let's give honest descriptions.

 

[quito]

Now that I think about it, the material reminds me of an undesirable iron oxide material we find in natural river Rock we used to use when we did exposed aggregate concrete.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

i will note however, that you havent seen in real life, which is part of the reason i necessarily dont take what you say 100% because everyone who has seen it in real life has said without a doubt that it is a pendant of some kind. Aswell as everyone ive talked to and said people think its natural, there relatively shocked.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

It not natural it's a Indian effigy.

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[IAMZIM]

I can't say if it is a geofact or an artifact. The pics are incredibly blurry. Can you get better pics? What I can say is it looks alot like some of the hematite fossils I have. Hematite would definitely set off your detector, and it should be mildly (or strongly) attracted to a magnet. You could try a streak test, (the lid on the tank of your toilet on the back rough side will work) does it streak red? black? A local university could do a specific gravity test that would go a long way in helping determine what the material is. A geologist could probably also determine if it is a fossil or not. He may be able to tell you if it was hand made or nature made, (Like seeing tool marks under a microscope) I will say that Iron Hematite can make some crazy shapes, both bulbous and angular. I have examples of hematite that are almost perfectly cubic, and some that were cubic, but then worn down by being stream tumbled, making them look very interesting! And, like I said, I have fossils that look very similar to what you have....but we need more info!

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Andrew post the side way pic. It show how it supposed to be

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[old digger]

Looks like a ''natural'' piece of odd shaped hematite. Hematite has characteristics of having odd shapes.

 

[quito]

It not natural it's a Indian effigy.

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Oh brother. I don't doubt you see artifact all over it.

maybe it's a jesuit carving huh.

 

[quito]

Andrew post the side way pic. It show how it supposed to be

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You mean show the one angle it looks most like what he, (and you) want it to be don't you?

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

You mean show the one angle it looks most like what he, (and you) want it to be don't you?

Im not saying its jesuit treasure. Every single person i have showed this to outside of this forum has said without a doubt its a pendant of some kind.

 

[weregolf]

Artifact

 

[Backwoodsbob]

He has found others around his area. QUITO what do you know about the Jesuit work? Have you ever been to one of their sites before? Have you Studied them for years? Until you do, don't criticize ones who have.

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[Backwoodsbob]

I did say it was Jesuit either. It could be. It an artifact period.

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[quito]

He has found others around his area. QUITO what do you know about the Jesuit work? Have you ever been to one of their sites before? Have you Studied them for years? Until you do, don't criticize ones who have.

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what do I know? Well for starters, from what you have shown of their work, they leave no evidence their carvings were made by the hand of man. Also, they had an uncanny ability to make those faces in the stones appear to look like natural features in their stone medium.

Oh, and I am not criticizing, just calling things they way I see them, right or wrong.

You must admit though, after posting all the stuff you have in the past back at the artifact forum, you don't get much agreement from anybody about what you think your rocks are. I can see why you would want to hop on Andrews wagon here.

 

[quito]

I did say it was Jesuit either. It could be. It an artifact period.

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I am sure that will make the finder very happy (and confused) to hear it may not be NA, but a RC piece. Maybe it's an Icon!

Hey, I know, maybe you can add in some of your examples so we can see what BACKWOODSBOB knows about, man made carvings, and geofacts.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

I am sure that will make the finder very happy (and confused) to hear it may not be NA, but a RC piece. Maybe it's an Icon!

Hey, I know, maybe you can add in some of your examples so we can see what BACKWOODSBOB knows about, man made carvings, and geofacts.

Can we just stop arguing this? Im done, i posted it in the rock fourm, people said it wasnt natural. Ive done what i need to conclude its a effigy. Im not here to impress people. Everyone out side of this fourm has said its not natural. I am done debating this.