blah blah 98% blah blah blah you're playing games blah blah you're the outsider
I thought I covered this already:
I don't have some kinda vendetta against [...] dredgers. In the grand scheme of things, it seems they're doing minimal, temporary harm that pales in insignificance to yearly storm flows or corporate america, and if they're actually collecting 98% of heavies then they're helping the ecosystem. You miners are the true green party. Thank you.
Yeah, playing a game that I didn't start, when all I did was
ask questions. Stop being so defensive and suspicious of everyone being a spy or a fake miner or a city boy that has no business in the stream. Those rich tech nerd vegan hipster liberal democrats that get sick of the city and turn into lumberjacks or whatever are your bread and butter,
and you're scaring them away with your xenophobia. I said "you'll" because your unjustified attitude makes newcomers feel unwelcome. No wonder it's taken 10 years and the laws have been getting
more strict.
You haven't a clue what type of person I am. You see my location and probably think "envirowacko" or "sierra shill". I grew up on the outskirts of town riding horses, shooting guns, blowing stuff up with firecrackers, building houses, swapping engines, and also playing with gadgets, computers, tech, blah blah blah. Sorry to burst your sad little preconceived defense mechanism bubbles, but "my type of people" are probably your best bet for fixing this mess. You know why? We're Polymaths, and we transcend party lines. We're relatable to many walks of life, and can get along pretty much anywhere. We see the world for what it is, not what our master's propaganda tell us about "the other guys" or the "boogyman".
When I'm out metal detecting I'm chatting with
dozens of the people you seem to hate, advocating for metal detecting and other treasure hunting.
Now with the info I'm learning here I can better advocate for dredging. If you don't want me to point these rich, educated, influential people in your direction, so be it. You're shooting yourself in the foot chasing people like me and them away. But yeah, you guys already had me pegged. Wew, lads.
The thing is... the mercury isn't really locked into the bottom, it gets stirred up every winter and driven by the high water, closer and closer to the ocean. We dredgers didn't put the mercury there in the first place and lots of it comes straight from mother nature. Yes, some old poorly built dredges will only recover 98%, of what they gather, so they were collecting 98% of the mercury that was sitting in or under the river bed before we became outlaws with a maximum 2% loss. I built my dredges to recover all of the mercury that was mixed in the river bed. The mercury that was at the bottom, in the bedrock cracks was never put thru the dredge. We pulled it out by hand with the gold. We used specially designed systems that had basically no loss at all. Dredges are used to get thru the riverbed to the bedrock. Everything stuck down in the cracks of the bedrock was meticulously pulled out by hand. It's just another part of the big lie...
This video shows how some dredges were used to get to the bottom.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=27s&v=VOelpwv8aC0
This video shows my dredge and how it was built specifically for mercury removal. I pulled many pounds of mercury out of the river system myself before I was made an outlaw for cleaning up California's environment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2hp0fzLzZBs
Being retired from the job that I dearly loved in 2009, by people who just couldn't tell the truth and had plenty of money to lie to the public with no recourse, doesn't change the fact that I did my best to clean the rivers, build perfect swimming holes that people thought were totally natural, build perfect dredges designed to catch everything. I've personally pulled hundreds of pounds of fishing weights out of the river's, and over 20lbs of mercury out of just one hole by hand. When I got to the bottom, it was like a mirror looking back at me and every bit of mercury was placed into jars, then cleaned and turned in to a local chemical company... A lifetime of helping clean the environment was shut down by commiefornia environazi lies... Now I'm an Arizonian!
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL34DA41102B4C46D3
Thanks for the info, I was just using the same arguments that were made it the thread about combie lake where people were saying that sierra's dredging with older style only got 93% and the newer style gets 98%. There were many more nuances like flouring and micron sized particles (.003mm or something wetted with mercury that can't be recovered) If you invented a new dredge that gets 100% (I haven't watched the videos yet) that's great! Also, I already know about storm flow, and made a point about it a few pages ago.
Again, thank you for cleaning up the environment. I've said it before and I'll say it again:
me said:
I don't have some kinda vendetta against [...] dredgers. In the grand scheme of things, it seems they're doing minimal, temporary harm that pales in insignificance to yearly storm flows or corporate america, and if they're actually collecting 98% of heavies then they're helping the ecosystem. You miners are the true green party. Thank you.
me said:
Nah, I totally get it. We've been poisoning ourselves nearly forever. Yup, we're trashing this planet. We are definitely foooooked.
(isn't coal the highest contributor to mercury?)
me said:
I'm not debating anyone, I'm asking questions and sharing my limited understanding, open to being corrected.
me said:
I understand why you'd be hostile though, sounds like [the state, feds, and sierras etc] boned ya.
me said:
I agree, and as a detectorist and a miner I take a lot of weights and bullets out of the ecosystem. I have no problem switching to nontoxic weights, and I hate losing gear. I also pick up other peoples fishing litter as I go.
me said:
I clean up after myself, and I clean up after other people too. Lead, hooks, line, etc. I bring home pocket fulls when I fish, bags full when I detect, and a little when I pan.
I have a drop of mercury in a bottle I got while panning. I'll keep adding to it.
me said:
Reed has already pointed out [the sierra's are] suspect. I already read some of the lake combie thread, and have already stated that I don't support the way they are doing it.
I didn't agree with or vote for the sierra club and others ripping off taxpayers.
Goldwasher, If we both speak nonsense, how come I can't understand yours? Please try to make sense.
Wildminer, I'll look that up.
Assembler, yeah, we're definitely poisoning ourselves all across the board.
