🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Gold signet ring

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I need help with some information about this ring. It has no Karat mark does this date it before 1906? I could also use help identifying the markers mark inside the band.

Opinions on what the initials are would be appreciated too!

Any information is greatly appreciated!

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First and last initials look very similar. It's hard to tell if they're the same or not with the wear on it.
 

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It looks like old German kurrent script to me. The only thing is that for that to be true it is written in a lower\upper\lower case format. The form of the lettering is correct for that style though. Perhaps they wanted the large flair and if it was all upper case it would have to be spread out more and smaller.

I believe it could be hRh
 

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The as relief imprint on the inside looks like a star with items attached to each end. I have a feeling it was a royal family ring... called, "Crown Jewelers" mark of some kind.
 

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Bumped, in hopes someone can still offer some information about the mark inside this ring!
 

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This mark seems very familiar to me... but cannot place it... even could be from seeing this post before but doubt it... just cannot place it.
 

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The mark in the ring sort of looks like an X, X for 10, for 10k maybe? I remember reading somewhere that 10k and lower standards were often not marked with the traditional K standard karat symbol because they were regarded as too impure to warrant it.
 

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The as relief imprint on the inside looks like a star with items attached to each end. I have a feeling it was a royal family ring... called, "Crown Jewelers" mark of some kind.

I'm not seeing anything to suggest that.

The mark in the ring sort of looks like an X, X for 10, for 10k maybe? I remember reading somewhere that 10k and lower standards were often not marked with the traditional K standard karat symbol because they were regarded as too impure to warrant it.

I'm not seeing it as an 'X' and don't think that's the case about 10K marks.

Bumped, in hopes someone can still offer some information about the mark inside this ring!

Frustratingly, the mark is just out of focus to the extent it's difficult to tell what it is.

As a long-shot, can you see it as a clenched fist holding crossed arrows, with any resemblance to this rather poor picture (sorry, it's the best I could immediately find)? If so, I can help.

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The styling for that mark will vary a bit with respect to the size of the fist and how much of the wrist is shown.
 

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Shafer & Douglas, Newark, New Jersey ? ?

Well, we need the OP to give a view on what he can see, but if it is a clenched fist with crossed arrows then yes, that's who it is.

The company was established in 1855 in Newark, NJ by Joseph H. Shafer as Shafer & Swinerton, changing name in 1869 to Shafer & Douglas when Frederick S. Douglas joined the firm. That continued without change until Douglas’ death in 1899 when the company incorporated. Up until that time they made various kinds of jewellery but, thereafter, only made rings. W.E. Shafer, the founder’s son, joined the company in 1904 and there appear to be no listings for it beyond 1922.
 

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Dorothy Rainwater’s ‘American Jewelry Manufacturers’ (Schiffer, 1988) The mark is on page 214.
 

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It is the mark of Shafer & Douglas, Newark, New Jersey. The company was established in 1855 by Joseph H. Shafer as Shafer & Swinerton, changing its name in 1869 to Shafer & Douglas when Frederick S. Douglas joined the firm. Rainwater writes: ‘It continued without change until the death in 1899 of Douglas, when it was incorporated. W.E. Shafer, son of the founder, entered the firm in 1904. The last listing found was in 1922. At first they made jewelry of various kinds but on the death of Douglas, the making of jewelry was discontinued and they made rings exclusively’.
 

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