Graham cave?

[EtleyMo]

I have found better whole points but for some reason this is one of my favs. It must have been the moment. Any ideas on type? I always thought Graham Cave or Hemphill. I was recently told Chesterfeild.

 

[ohio]

Graham Cave.........JMHO. Boy it would have been a stunner!

Chuck

 

[Neanderthal]

Looks like Chesterfield. The notches on them are placed up higher than is typical of Graham Caves. The notches are usually more "upwards" on a GC and they are often serrated, Chesterfield aren't. Chesterfield also have a blade on them that is more reminiscent of Etley than GC.

 

[Buckhunter]

Osceola Or Hemphill, I think a Chesterfield is a variant of the Osceola point. Im sure 37 or S.R.V. can tell.

 

[hewhohuntsrocks]

chesterfield is still what I would call it. sweet

 

[Neanderthal]

Osceola Or Hemphill, I think a Chesterfield is a variant of the Osceola point. Im sure 37 or S.R.V. can tell.

Chesterfield is not a variant of the Osceola, it's much later. There are a ton of side notched points from all over the U.S. and similarities can be found with most all of them, but this doesn't mean they are the same people who made them. The Osceola and Hemphill can easily be confused with each other, but the Chesterfield...not so much. As stated in the previous post, the Chesterfield is pretty identifiable with those high notches and flaking on the blade.

Edited to add: Here are a couple of Chesterfield examples from Greg Perino's personal collection, they show the variances within the type. Sorry about the quality of the images, they were intended just to be small jpg's for reference in a program.

 

[Hippy]

I agree with Neanderthal as it's definitely a Chesterfield point. They are found on Etley sites but in much less quantity than the Etley. That's an exceptionally well made one and they usually aren't that find. Chesterfield was named by Perino for Chesterfield, Missouri. Although they are normal for Etley sites they are still not at all common. There's probably 100 Etley points to every Chesterfield. For some reason some sites produce more of them.

Hippy

 

[joshuaream]

I didn't even think about Chesterfield because I've never seen any that well made. Very cool piece and great information.

 

[Buckhunter]

Is this a Chesterfield then?

 

[EtleyMo]

It's funny you mentioned Etley's Hippy. On that same sight I know of 8 that came from there and 3 of those were barbed. I have one of the barbed with tip and tang damage. The other 2 were a sight to see.

 

[Hippy]

Is this a Chesterfield then?

I would say it's probably a Chesterfield. They are most common around the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers and do extend up the Missouri River a ways. If you were finding Etleys on the site where you found that then it's pretty a sure bet. Chesterfields have been found in Caches along with Wadlows and Etleys which attributes them to the same time frame.

Hippy

 

[Neanderthal]

Is this a Chesterfield then?

Have a pic that shows the base?

 

[EtleyMo]

Here are all of the pieces found where I found the Chesterfeild. The barbed Etlely is 1 of the 3 found. Naturally mine is broken. The broken Tablerock would have been awesome. I didn't realize I had both pieces until later.