✅ SOLVED Great seal button time frame help

[Nick79]

Hi all, dug this great seal button today. Noticed no rim, and the back says SIGMUND EISNER REDBANK. I have been trying to get a time frame on it but not fining much. I'm thinking WW1 or earlier. Anyone know when they added the rim to the design, or how to date the back stamp? I've seen others online with S. EISNER REDBANK NJ. Any help appreciated

 

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[Nick79]

Also, I dont have a computer and use the tapatalk app on my phone. It seems my posts are marked solved right when I post but I dont even see the option to mark solved or not. Any help?

 

[Johncoho]

Probably WW I. Company that made the button was in business from 1859 to 1925.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Your rim less button dates from 1902-1910. The rim was added in 1910. Also, not to nit pick or anything but the Sigmund Eisner buttons were actually made by the Waterbury button company.

 

[Nick79]

Your rim less button dates from 1902-1910. The rim was added in 1910. Also, not to nit pick or anything but the Sigmund Eisner buttons were actually made by the Waterbury button company.

Interesting that the buttons were made by Waterbury, I would like to read up more on it. I read they had a factory and opened up more near by. Did they mainly make uniforms and have the buttons made with their name on it? Thank you for the help!

 

[A2coins]

Great I'd.nice button

 

[fyrffytr1]

Interesting that the buttons were made by Waterbury, I would like to read up more on it. I read they had a factory and opened up more near by. Did they mainly make uniforms and have the buttons made with their name on it? Thank you for the help!

That was most likely the case. Waterbury, Scovill and Steele & Johnson were the three big button making companies.

 

[Nick79]

Thanks, I was happy with the cleanup. Hydrogen peroxide soak, then a fine brass brush.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Very nice early 'Great Seal' button find Nick!

I've always had my reservations about using Hydrogen Peroxide as a restoration tool, mainly because if your not careful it will often change the colour of the base metal.
I also use a wire brush wheel, but on a bench mounted variable speed polisher to lightly remove the environmental corrosion.

I then use a museum quality 'Conservator's Wax' to even out the verdigris and seal the surface.
Here are pics of a few of the relics that I've restored this way.

Dave

 

[Nick79]

Wow, that wax really looks nice. I've done the paraffin wax to iron, never thought of coins and other relics. Thanks!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Wow, that wax really looks nice. I've done the paraffin wax to iron, never thought of coins and other relics. Thanks!

I use this wax on bronze crotal bells, brass, iron even on some of the more unique rocks I find detecting Nick.
Here's a rock I found at an old homestead site that was glowing yellow in the early morning sun, I especially like the plow strikes.

We were on holiday in San Francisco last month and took a day trip to the Santa Cruz Boardwalk... I should've brought my detector.

Best of luck to you Nick,
Dave

 

[Nick79]

Thanks for the tips, glad you had fun in SF. One of our club members detects Santa Cruz several times a week and does very well

 

[Iron Buzz]

Your rim less button dates from 1902-1910. The rim was added in 1910. Also, not to nit pick or anything but the Sigmund Eisner buttons were actually made by the Waterbury button company.

fyrffytr1, I found the same button yesterday and saw your comment. What do you mean by "rimless"?

My button:

 

[fyrffytr1]

Here are pics of 1902-1910 and 1911-newer buttons. The rim was altered sometime around WWII to a more angular design.