Hanging on Shaun7s Coattails...ID UPDATE...

[CRUSADER]

Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

Shaun7 kindly & selflessly put me on a hammered spot

Pretty sure 5 in a day is a record for me this year!

Includes a Sterling Imitation (nice high silver example):
Edward I or II Imitation
Circa 1272-1326
Penny
COMES.GL.RENCIS

Long Cross
CIVITAS ARNEYM
Luxemburg

5 Complete & 2 broken Crotals Bells - definately an all time 1 day record for these!

Nice 17th Century Token - not in book, so seeking an ID.

1602 Irish Halfpenny (Copper)

Medieval Horse Pendant

The ring gave me a heart attack

Plus lots of bits, what a fun day trip that one was

Thanks Shaun7

 

[wwwtimmcp]

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I see in the right top side of your first photo a "colour" button. I have quite a few of these from the site I am working. diana's buttons says these are 1700-1800, and "colour" is a quality mark for gilted buttons. excellent finds indeed, and thank you for sharing.

 

[allen]

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I just keep getting more jealous of those amazing finds !!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

UPDATE:
17th Century Token ID:

Thomas Hock well with horse and cart
In St Katerins Dock
London

 

[chark21798]

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Man I hope someday to get over your way. Great finds. HH Mark

 

[shaun7]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

UPDATE:
17th Century Token ID:

Thomas Hock well with horse and cart
In St Katerins Dock
London

Amazing, I love those tokens

Did he cart water about then

A bit like "A man with a van"

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

UPDATE:
17th Century Token ID:

Thomas Hock well with horse and cart
In St Katerins Dock
London

Amazing, I love those tokens

Did he cart water about then

A bit like "A man with a van"

I wondered what a cartman was doing with tokens, what was his job? (maybe carting dock goods) How would you find him again, unless he had a shop or a dock plot

My token friend, commented - 'very interesting'

 

[shaun7]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

 

[Iron Patch]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

You're still showing your face (well name) around here?

 

[Woodland Detectors]

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Geez you guys.

You sure like making us American's drool. dont you?

Great day!

 

[CRUSADER]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

On the Token it is HOCK.WELL, so implies its two words, but no idea what it means & they were not so good at spelling their own names in the 17th C anyway Hock could be the middle name Often the token is all the information we know about it, so lots of guessing goes on with these (like with the horse & cart). Which now I think about it, could be a Pub (the docks being a good place for one).

 

[shaun7]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

You're still showing your face (well name) around here?

I'm waiting for a post from you

 

[Iron Patch]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

You're still showing your face (well name) around here?

I'm waiting for a post from you

It might be a few more weeks yet but Ironhorse says he is game. Plan to do lots of digs so you'll be seeing something.

 

[shaun7]

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Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

You're still showing your face (well name) around here?

I'm waiting for a post from you

It might be a few more weeks yet but Ironhorse says he is game. Plan to do lots of digs so you'll be seeing something.

How come so long....weather?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

Was the name Hockwell or Hock, who had a well

You're still showing your face (well name) around here?

I'm waiting for a post from you

It might be a few more weeks yet but Ironhorse says he is game. Plan to do lots of digs so you'll be seeing something.

How come so long....weather?

Crops just coming out and we're both busy with different things.... and a few more weeks isn't a big deal. When it comes we'll both be free (and game) to hunt when we want so you might see more posts than usual.

 

[woody50]

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Nice 17th Century Token - not in book, so seeking an ID.

Hi Cru, which objectis the 17th century token?

 

[shaun7]

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Nice 17th Century Token - not in book, so seeking an ID.

Hi Cru, which objectis the 17th century token?

Next to the hammered's Earl!

 

[woody50]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

UPDATE:
17th Century Token ID:

Thomas Hock well with horse and cart
In St Katerins Dock
London

I think I see the token now, next to the silver coins. Is it also silver?
Is the text given above what is on the token, or the determination of it?

St Katerins Dock ? There was a St Katharine Docks in London.
Sorry for so many questions, but one last one. What do you mean by the word 'well' in your text?

They were one of the commercial docks serving London, on the north side of the river Thames just east (downstream) of the Tower of London and Tower Bridge. They were part of the Port of London, in the area now known as the Docklands, and are now a popular housing and leisure complex.
St Katharine Docks took their name from the former hospital of St Katharine's by the Tower, built in the 12th century, which stood on the site (from Wikipedia).

I think for me the token is the top find.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Hanging on Shaun7's Coattails...ID UPDATE...

UPDATE:
17th Century Token ID:

Thomas Hock well with horse and cart
In St Katerins Dock
London

I think I see the token now, next to the silver coins. Is it also silver?
Is the text given above what is on the token, or the determination of it?

St Katerins Dock ? There was a St Katharine Docks in London.
Sorry for so many questions, but one last one. What do you mean by the word 'well' in your text?

They were one of the commercial docks serving London, on the north side of the river Thames just east (downstream) of the Tower of London and Tower Bridge. They were part of the Port of London, in the area now known as the Docklands, and are now a popular housing and leisure complex.
St Katharine Docks took their name from the former hospital of St Katharine's by the Tower, built in the 12th century, which stood on the site (from Wikipedia).

I think for me the token is the top find.

Its Brass, where the expression 'its not worth a brass farthing' came from.

The 'Well' came from the token:

THOMAS.HOCK.WELL
(Horse & Cart in centre)

*IN.S.KATTERENS.DOCK
(H over T&B in centre)

In this condition, I think its a top find as well, as personal as you can get for any coin/token. I got it on my first run of the field & then I 'knew' it would be a good day.

PS. Try & find a reference or example on the web

 

[{Sentinel}]

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Nice finds bud

 

[CRUSADER]

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Nice finds bud

might be my best post for awhile, things are happening quickly & the window for searching was down to 2 days on our best sites dues to weather & new money saving farming methods