lostcauses said:
BosnMate said:
Loose Lips Sink Ships. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I better shut up myself, otherwise I'd be off an a rant.
Well problem with this case is the given or donated was not challenged until later suggesting that such was granted. Who to it to court accusing who of what?? (innocent until proven guilty?).
Loose lips sink ships is advice for present day dirt fishers, and innocent until proven guilty is simple, it's advice for both now and also applies to him. If you have artifacts that amount to something rare or nice, you shoot your mouth off, or show them around, someone decides you shouldn't have them and they want what you have, they (I'm not going to enlarge on who they are, you figure it out, I don't want to say any bad words) will take them and you have to prove that you acquired them legally. This has happened to a person I know, and he ended up getting screwed, to the best of my knowledge he didn't do a thing illegal, but he had to spend huge amounts of money defending himself, and lost his stuff in the end. They will lie to get the stuff from you, and you have to prove they are lying. It's like tax law. The government can come up with any off the wall amount and say you owe taxes, and you have to prove you don't owe the money. Where is the innocent until proven guilty? It doesn't apply in tax law, or in archie law. What I'm saying is be careful what you post, and at other times enjoy your finds, but keep your mouth shut, big brother is watching. When I was a kid the U. S. Forest Ranger would tell us where to look for arrow heads. I feel those points were legally acquired with permission. But if they come for my collection, how the heck am I supposed to remember the Rangers name, or even the National Forest 50 or 60 years later? Now, if I was caught today, illegally picking up an arrow head on public land, BLM or National Forest, they would come and take my entire collection. I've got stuff I inherited from my grandmother, uncles, father, and I have picked up arrowheads myself over the years, but the facts are, being a country kid, I don't know of any of the collection that came off of public land, they came from private property, both my own, my relatives and people I worked for who let me keep them, except for the few that we found with the rangers permission. That doesn't make any difference, if they want what I have, they will take it, and I don't have enough money to get it back. That's what I was saying, seems simple enough to me.