✅ SOLVED Help!???Colonial era Silver. Thanks

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Mexican reales coin from reign of Carlos IV 1788-1808. Diameter will determine the denomination.
1R=20mm; 2R=28MM;34mm=4R and 40mm=8R.
Don....

Hi, I think maybe you misinterprated one of my photos,
The mystery coin is not a carlos4, you positvely identified a diffent coin in the photo. Could you take another look please? Would be very helpful.
 

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Mack knows coins better than I and my memory is bad and i may be misunderstanding. Google Carlos IV mexico mint and see if it matches. I'm on a weak signal
 

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The best way is to post the mystery coin and the Carlos IV mexico mint ID side by side to see if its a match but i cant do it.
 

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I'm starting to think it's not an eagle on the back maybe it's something else
 

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I think it is the Carlos 3 obverse and a later Eagle reverse I will post some pictures later I'm at work right now
 

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Nice necklace!! I hope this is seen by the folks who seem to perpetuate the myth that holed coins were done to "sew into clothing", when it was mostly done for jewelry purposes.
 

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Okay here's a theory sometimes when a die breaks they use an older version to keep production going so I'm thinking the Mexican reverse with a substituted Carlos 4 obverse
 

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Very interesting.
Maybe the reverses were switched because it was made during the war 1810-1820 ,
The writing on the perimeter is odd to me.. i think gothic style or polish coin style. Now i think zacatecas from mexico
 

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The mexican eagle seems the most probable for one side, im not shure about carlos 4
 

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I can't do it on my celphon but if you put the Carlos iv side by side to the mystery coin it doesn't seem to match.
 

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RE; Post 15
Coin on the right is from Potosi, Bolivia. Mint mark includes a distinctive "T".
IMO Assayers ('JR'): José de Vargas y Flores or Juan Palomo Sierra and Raimundo de Iturriaga,
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Hello my old friend Mackaydon. We are trying to ID the coin in the center post #33. Its the reverse of the mystery coin on Joecoins necklace Do you have any idea what it may be? It doesnt seem to match a Mexican Carlos IV and there seems to be much confusion here. Go back to post #1 this is the mystery coin we are trying to ID.. We already know the others.
 

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You're right the eagle does not seem to be a match
 

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Somebody could search silver colonial coins from the late 1700s/early 1800s. Try Spanish, French, Porteguese, Dutch and all the Carribean/ South American colonies. I drew a line where i think is the bottom of the coin. I think its a profile of a face thats looking left and i drew an arrow pointing to the nose. It almost looks Haitian but i checked.

mystery coin.jpg
 

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I messed around a bit with the contrast to try to bring out the lettering. I am starting to become obsessed LOL I can't imagine how bad it would be if I owned the thing.
 

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