Help found at rivers edge from erosion, all copper. Serious find!

[Darkblue087]

I found in eroded Chattahoochee River by sr 166 .. The faces make me think bronze? They tink, no scratches done to it help aztec? S like clasps and bell looking things on one end.. Was it 2 peices? More pics soon

 

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[smokeythecat]

It looks like contact period trade materials. Contact period is about 1500-1780. Closeups and pictures of the back would help. We find some contact materials in copper here, but it is few and far between.

 

[tokameel]

I can't help, but welcome to TNet.

 

[Darkblue087]

One had been fixed link is round rather flat but copper trying to add more..

 

[Darkblue087]

It wont add more it loads then just stops loading no pics uploaded hope it helps.. The 2 faces face each other looks like aliens to humans maybe in a space suit??

 

[smokeythecat]

It looks a lot like the Iroquois false face god. Also the Hopewell and other cultures had similar designs. Someone may be able to chip in with more information. Human faces on effigies and other items was not uncommon, just very hard to find these days.

 

[Darkblue087]

I like when 2 states very hard to find, I would be proud and able toprove I was going to find something amazing one day.. Faces tink maybe copper? Some odd reason i think bronze.. Or a green stone ... It tinks like a gem

 

[Darkblue087]

I cant add photos.... I found these beaded green brown necklace very close to it..... Gah i cant show

 

[Retired Sarge]

Wonder of it could be a bell pull of sorts, see link below.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/601109-would-like-help-identifying-cherub-chain.html

 

[lairmo]

Try to upload one pic at a time...per post..we don't mind...lol

 

[rick67]

What's a "tink"?

 

[PetesPockets55]

Very nice find. I like it.

What's a "tink"?

A sound it makes, I think?

Looks bronze to me also as copper would be seriously corroded and pitted from being in/near the water.

When I've run into problems loading an image, a message popped up that said the file size is too large. Wasn't sure how to correct it so I just took new images and didn't zoom in all the way, which seemed to work. Hope you get more images to post.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

To me... it looks like you've discovered a serious piece of US 'trade history'.
I'd consider emailing pics or taking it to a museum for authentication.

Dave

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[Reanm8er]

Welcome Darkblue, nice find! It doesn't look like the ends fasten together because the tassel looking objects at the ends.
It could perhaps have been some kind of a votive object for spiritual or ceremonial use. The expression suggests "Oh no
my mother in law is coming!" The markings on the back appear to be characters of some sort. Maybe listed in order they
spelled something or expressed some concept.

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Best wishes!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

The expression suggests "Oh no my mother in law is coming!"

 

[nagant]

The backs show how thick and solid they are. Bronze would not make sense to me, cant see European trade goods would have that design. searched around but got rabbit holed, cool subject!

 

[A2coins]

Freakin cool find let us know if you get a solid ID

 

[A2coins]

Welcome also