🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Help Identify ammo

tinner · Apr 20, 2022

Hello everyone, I'm wondering if anyone can help Identifying this ammo. The first casing has no headstamp but appears to be a 45 cal.

. the second casing has markings that say Rem-umc .30usa. The rest are led bullets except for the pointy one not sure if it is a bullet or not

Thanks for your help!!

Back-of-the-boat · Apr 21, 2022

The pointy one looks like a pellet from an air rifle.

lisfisher · Apr 21, 2022

UMC stands for Union metallic cartridge company, founded in 1867. They later merged with Remington arms in Bridgeport CT

pepperj · Apr 21, 2022

Back-of-the-boat said:
The pointy one looks like a pellet from an air rifle.

Not any pellet I have ever used.
Way too big unless it's something made now in the higher cal.
.177/.22 cal are the two common
Hard to tell as there's no photo of the diameter measurement.

pistol-pete · Apr 21, 2022

first one is 45 Colt looks like 1880's they weren't headstamp at first. REM-UMC headstamp n the 30 USA or 30 Army, commonly called 30-40 krag would put it after 1912 as they used only UMC before that date.

tinner · Apr 22, 2022

pepperj said:
Not any pellet I have ever used.
Way too big unless it's something made now in the higher cal.
.177/.22 cal are the two common
Hard to tell as there's no photo of the diameter measurement.

I would agree, not a pellet, way too big. I've attached another photo for reverence.
Thanks!!

tinner · Apr 22, 2022

pistol-pete said:
first one is 45 Colt looks like 1880's they weren't headstamp at first. REM-UMC headstamp n the 30 USA or 30 Army, commonly called 30-40 krag would put it after 1912 as they used only UMC before that date.

Thanks, I kind of thought it was a .45 but no headstamp threw me off. So this round was introduced after the .30 06?

tinner · Apr 22, 2022

Also, I'm really curious about picture #7. It has a sliver of led at the pointed end, Maybe from the casting

Any ideas

i've added a couple more pictures of it.
Thanks!!

pistol-pete · Apr 23, 2022

No Tinner the 30-40 Krag introduced 1892 and used until 1906 when we went to 30-06 cartridge
Commercial 30-40's are still made today.
45 Colt introduced 1873 still made today.
30-40 was known as 30 Army
30-06 is 30 Government

Back-of-the-boat · Apr 23, 2022

tinner said:
Also, I'm really curious about picture #7. It has a sliver of led at the pointed end, Maybe from the casting Any ideas i've added a couple more pictures of it.
Thanks!!

It almost looks like someone grabbed it with a pair of pliers or something else to pull it from the casing.