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Jereomp

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1st - I noticed this was your very first post - so, Welcome Aboard Jereomp! You didn't list your state (or country) in your profile. So, you might consider jumping over to Sub-Forum: Select Your Area.... for information (i.e., clubs, hunts, finds, legends, maps, etc.) directly related to your state (or country).

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2nd - How about some dimensions? My first thought is one of the peep holes in the top middle of a very old (and large) entry door :).
 

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Found in the water, or found in the dunes?

It certainly "looks" old, but it doesn't have the "look" of something that spent time underwater or buried in dunes, it doesn't seem to be weathered.

Any chance it came from inside of a building, and was mislabeled or misidentified on accident (or on purpose) as being from a wreck?

Even family legends can be wrong, I've known a lot of people whose grandfather swore an item was one thing, when it really was something else.
 

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Speculating that folks living near the coast would be quickly aware of any wreck in their vicinity and just as quick to salvage anything of value that washed up or was accessible to them.
 

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That does not look to have been found on a shipwreck...

I see little evidence that piece of wood was at sea, nor part of a shipwreck on a beach.

sorry
 

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Well... I actually own a piece like this believe it or not.

And it was part of the interior of a galleon that was beached in Key West according to the legend behind it.

AND... it is remarkably similar in style in some ways to your piece.

I am curious... I would like to see any hardware... or nails etc close-up pictures if possible.

My piece has VERY similar carving style.
 

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It's hand carved and looks work-a-day in execution, as in could have been made by a ship's carpenter with a few chisels and a moulding plane, not a fine piece made on shore for the officer's quarters - or a work-a-day piece that was produced in a country community and never saw the sea. The design appears to mimic decorative iron strapping fastened with rivets. Doesn't evoke something particularly marine as far as I can see. There are those curious ears next to the 'spear points'... and a 'knob' in the center? Quick work, rough in finish. No sign of paint - suppose it could have had some kind of oil finish or varnish at one time. Wood might be ash.
 

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It's hand carved and looks work-a-day in execution, as in could have been made by a ship's carpenter with a few chisels and a moulding plane, not a fine piece made on shore for the officer's quarters - or a work-a-day piece that was produced in a country community and never saw the sea. The design appears to mimic decorative iron strapping fastened with rivets. Doesn't evoke something particularly marine as far as I can see. There are those curious ears next to the 'spear points'... and a 'knob' in the center? Quick work, rough in finish. No sign of paint - suppose it could have had some kind of oil finish or varnish at one time. Wood might be ash.

To me this definitely has the look of being painted.
 

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It is a rose the ears are thorns, it is not an English Rose, as they have five sides, could have been on a ship, the rose is a religious symbol offering protection, goggle it.
This one was on the Mary Rose 1545
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Ok, so there we have it - crown of thorns, cross with rose at the center. Looking Catholic rather than something else...

It is a rose the ears are thorns, it is not an English Rose, as they have five sides, could have been on a ship, the rose is a religious symbol offering protection, goggle it.

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PetesPockets55

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A very interesting thread that may help many of us with information.

.... I would like to see any hardware... or nails etc close-up pictures if possible....
While the image in my avatar is too small to be used for a cabinet hinge IMHO, it did still have a fastener attached to it. (Found in the vicinity of Corrigans wreck in Fl., 1715 fleet)

Interesting that you have a cabinet door. How thick is the cabinet door? The distance from the head to the bend in the nail on my hinge is about 1/2", so I'm assuming that is the thickness of the wood it was attached to.



To me this definitely has the look of being painted.

"Pickling" ( sort of a wash with stain or paint) often has this look to it. I agree that if the OP's door was recovered soon after wrecking it wouldn't have signs of being submerged.
 

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Magoopeter

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Very decretive, most hinges are hidden on the inside of a door or chest/ box, it prevents them being tapered with Hidden from view there was no need for them to be attractive to the eye. whatever that came of was high value, Mybe a bible box or personal items held with in it, great find and item that connects to the 1715 fleet.
 

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Yeah... mine is of unknown age... it has been said that it is REAL early... 1600's.

It was as far as I know never submerged.

And it is not a cabinet.. it is a piece if interior carved molding rail with a large medieval hanging hook.

It has remnants of original paint even.

Carving in it looks very similar in workmanship as seen here.
 

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