How are you affected by the ACA

How the ACA relates to me

  • It's beneficial, a positive impact in my life.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's terrible, a negative impact in my life

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • It has not changed me, I will keep what I have.

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • I couldn't afford insurance then, can't afford it now.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6

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How has, or how will, implementation of the ACA (Obamacare if you will) DIRECTLY effect you as an individual.

Will your insurance go up, go down, get better, get worse? Will this plan cost you more, or save you money.

Do you have insurance now? How will, or has this, changed your insurance posture.


After all, it's about the money. It's always about the money.
 

My company insurance has gone up $185 a month due to lucifercare.

Under lucifercare my rates would go up another $1000+ a year and out of pocket expenses $10,200 a year.

If money is no object to you feel free to pay for some else's insurance...

We will NOT go quitely into the night!
 

Both my employer and BC/BS sent me letters stating my insurance wouldn't be changing, and my rates would be unchanged. And that is what has happened. The ACA was never intended to apply to people who already had insurance that met the minimum requirements.
 

And every insurance policy in the US is dependent on the fact that some people will pay for others, so that is nothing new from the ACA. I haven't made a claim on my auto insurance in many years, and understand the money I pay them in premiums each month goes to those that have made claims. Nothing new about that at all...
 

And every insurance policy in the US is dependent on the fact that some people will pay for others, so that is nothing new from the ACA. I haven't made a claim on my auto insurance in many years, and understand the money I pay them in premiums each month goes to those that have made claims. Nothing new about that at all...

What part of out of pocket expenses increasing 5 times, cost of insurance increasing with less coverage is hard to understand?

Current
$4100 Year premium
80/20 Coverage
$2500 Out of pocket

Lucifercare
$5300 Year premium
70/30 Coverage
$12,200 Out of pocket

If anyone thinks I'm going to support Lucifercare or run out and buy it your NUTS!


We will NOT go quitely into the night!
 

Matt-What a crazy thing to say??,, sell your car! There, now you don't have to participate. Fixed your problem in 2 seconds.
 

Both my employer and BC/BS sent me letters stating my insurance wouldn't be changing, and my rates would be unchanged. And that is what has happened. The ACA was never intended to apply to people who already had insurance that met the minimum requirements.

You keep saying this,, Do you "hope" its' true? We have talked about this before. The full ramifications are not set to hit until after the midterm elections.(probably 2015).

You are being fed some bad stuff. Why do you think information like this is available?
Case Study #6: The Exclusion for Employer Provided Health Insurance | Tax Foundation

Key Points:
Eliminating the exclusion for employer provided health insurance would:

  • Increase tax revenues by $160 billion on a static basis;
  • Reduce GDP by $107 billion;
  • Generate slightly less revenues ($133 billion) on a dynamic basis;
  • Reduce employment by the equivalent of approximately 519,000 full-time workers; and
  • Reduce hourly wages by 0.3 percent.
Eliminating the exclusion and trading the static revenue gains for individual rate cuts would:

  • Allow for an across-the-board rate cut of 14.6 percent;
  • Boost GDP by $125 billion per year;
  • Boost federal revenues by $29 billion on a dynamic basis;
  • Increase employment by the equivalent of approximately 826,000 full-time workers; and
  • Increase hourly wages by 0.1 percent. "
What do you think is coming? You should know there are thousands of blank pages to be filled out "as needed" in this wreck.. Infer what you want, but you first need to understand your government.


"[1] The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) will require that this information appear on most employees' W-2s, but the mandate is being implemented slowly.
[2] The estimate is sensitive to the assumed pattern of distribution of the benefits across income levels. Also, Treasury may more fully include care paid for directly by employers; JCT may limit its estimate more to premiums.
[3] These numbers estimate the effect on federal income tax receipts of eliminating the tax exclusion for employer-provided health care. They do not include the increase in payroll taxes if employer-provided health care were treated as ordinary compensation. The U.S. Treasury estimates that the additional effect on payroll tax receipts would have been approximately $110 billion in 2012. See Office of Management and Budget, Analytical Perspectives-Budget of the U.S. Government, FY 2014 at 247, http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/spec.pdf
[4] We assume proportional cuts in all of the ordinary income tax bracket rates but no cuts in the lower tax rates on capital gains and qualified dividends."
 

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So sorry my real world experiences don't accommodate the right wing agenda...
 

So sorry my real world experiences don't accommodate the right wing agenda...

I can't force you to look. Just left it for you. But you get yourself lost in the ....wing agenda.
 

Check out my wing agenda:

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I am a very thin guy. Like, the Doctor always thinks there is something wrong with me because I am medically underweight. Its just me, Im just a skinny guy.

Anyway... When it comes to wings... I like to throw down!
 

I have no idea how it will affect me. I'd have to see exactly what part of my taxes go to welfare and how much my taxes are going up.
UM said, "The ACA was never intended to apply to people who already had insurance that met the minimum requirements"

I see he is already quoting odumbo again but, just like the sheepherder, adding "that met the minimum requirements" to a statement that used to have a period at the end of it. If you were a guy that loved your insurance but it didn't cover prenatal care the libs found it a trash policy, made companies quit offering it and told the guy that loved his policy to go shopping in a store that isn't even open yet.
 

Because the real rollout is scheduled for after the midterms, I find myself hard pressed to participate in a moving target, with multiple moving parts. Sure, a poll is a snapshot in time,, and then it is used to beat you over the head long after its relevance has gone.
 

They loved the kool aid 'til they found out what was in it.

Been told I have a problem with this. I always try to figure out your point when you say something, or why say it?
Is it a play on Jim and Guyana? It is an appropriate reference.
 

Here is a point I'm looking at, may not be the one which you seek tho-

It seems that the people against it are the ones who will have to pay more money, so it's a bad thing.

The ones for it, are largely unaffected by it, so it's a great thing.

People who were uninsurable are obviously for it, and I don't blame them, I'd be for it too if I was very sick and couldn't get health care.
 

Yeah,, I am pretty sure it won't affect me for a year or so. I think the ones thinking it will never affect them are not looking beyond supper time. I did not simply post a right wing article,, It actually leans left and tries to extoll the good of it, and it is making a case for YOU paying, through taxes, for the BENEFIT of having Insurance.
The insurance is going to be taxable as income. Most people can't grasp that. Just think, your employer is now REQUIRED to assess how much that is worth! That is not an accident.
 

Lucifercare---I love it. Guys,-what are you arguing about now. You can't sign up even if you wanted to and I'm guessing the program will be dead before they get the software up and running. I have a feeling that a concentrated hacker attack will help get the job done and the new republican President will finish it. Lucifercare, TH you're killing me...
 

My insurance went up 33% directly because of o-butthead care. Nobody knows how much it will go up in the future, but as ACA continues to rape the insurance companies, they will be passing it on to those of us still paying our own way.
 

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