GRACIAS thank you Cache Crazy for the clarification - I had gotten a mistaken impression by mis-reading what you posted earlier. (Specifically "global civilization" I took to infer a single world-wide "empire") I agree that geologists "don't know it all" and have no desire to question your faith, as I am also a Christian; however there is no need to interpret the Old Testament flood to mean that the waters were over 25,000 feet deep, especially when it indicates how high the waters rose and we have extra-biblical sources that describe the flood as mentioned earlier.
I have asked others whether it would affect their belief or non-belief in a God, if we were able to prove it empirically (through science) - and it is actually possible, including the Great Flood. We fall into errors by our not fully understanding the true meaning recorded in the texts, for instance many an atheist will point to the Creation in six days as silly and disproven by science, and on the other hand we have deeply faithful folk who take the six days literally - yet it does not say six 24-hour days, and in other passages we learn that God uses the term "day" to mean a period of time; to this God, a "day" is not the single rotation of Earth that we define as a "day" (note Psalm 90:4, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
and 2 Peter 3:8 "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
- in the apocryphal book "Life of Adam and Eve" we find a story where God explains this fact to Adam too. In the Hindu religion, a day for Brahma is some 4,320,000,000 years, which is surprisingly close to the age of the Earth as calculated by geologists. According to the calculations of the 13th century Kabbalist, Rabbi Isaac of Acco, the universe is precisely 15,340,500,000 years old. Again this figure dovetails well with our best scientific calculations.
The three greatest religions on Earth are all originated in the Old Testament of the ancient Hebrews, and few people are aware of the fact that in Hebrew, the word for "nature" is the same word as for "God"; Science is a study of the laws of Nature, and the laws of Nature are the laws of God. It is only in our understanding that we get into problems.
I also realize that if there were a global high-technology civilization existing in the Ice Age, that probably little of their artifacts would remain to be found - just as our own buildings and cars, ships, planes etc would dissolve into dust and rust in a matter of a few centuries; however don't forget that SOME things would survive, and we just don't have those types of items to prove that an Ice Age civilization that extended virtually everywhere existed. I am referring to items made of gold, glass, fired clay etc. These types of artifacts will survive for thousands to tens of thousands of years and even more - a gold object is not likely to dissolve for many thousands of years as it is so chemically inert.
I am also in agreement with you viz myths; for most all myths are based on facts. I have posted this elsewhere in T-net but even such "ridiculous" things as "unicorns" can be traced to garbled transmissions of information, as people were trying to describe the single-horned Asian rhino to people who had never seen one and had to rely on describing it through known animals (it is sort of like a horse with a horn on its head, with cloven hooves, etc). An ancient Greek traveler and Marco Polo confirmed this, saying that the unicorns were nothing like they had been described but were exceedinly ugly, covered with armor plates and very dangerous as well. I believe this sort of mis-understanding is the root of MOST myths, if not all.
My apologies if anything I posted is of offense to you Cache Crazy, no offense was intended; I was simply asking for some clarification/explanation of your views. Thanks again,
your friend,
Roy ~ Oroblanco