I think this is old!!

[NC field hunter]

Found this on lunch today! I am pretty sure it is really old! What do y'all think?

 

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[Twitch]

It's a bladelet or a flake blade. Assuming it was found in context it's a nice example. I primarily see them in Woodland sites but I'm sure they show up in other strata as well. Cool find.

Joe

 

[NC field hunter]

It's a bladelet or a flake blade. Assuming it was found in context it's a nice example. I primarily see them in Woodland sites but I'm sure they show up in other strata as well. Cool find.

Joe

Woodland! I was thinking older, but woodland sounds good to me! I have been on a quest to find pottery in my home town, but can't. All of my sites seem too primitive . Along with this piece, I found what looked like a small pot chard. I was too embarrassed to post it, that is how small it is. This was only my second 15 minute trip to this site. The strange point I posted came from there as well. I'll have more time in the morning to look that place over. I hope woodland is right. Thanks for viewing!

 

[Harry Pristis]

Found this on lunch today! I am pretty sure it is really old! What do y'all think?

This sort of flake blade has to be in the running for the "universal tool."

"Blade tool definition:
1. twice as long as wide with blade margins fairly parallel.
2. two or more longitudinal crests or ridges indicating other flakes were removed from the core in the same direction.
Blades are the hallmark of the European Upper Paleolithic period and have antecedents in the Mousterian and perhaps even the late Acheulean periods. Many of the tools made on blades decribed for the European Upper Paleolithic are found also at sites in North America." ....B. Purdy, FLORIDA'S PREHISTORIC STONE TECHNOLOGY

 

[NC field hunter]

This sort of flake blade has to be in the running for the "universal tool."

"Blade tool definition:
1. twice as long as wide with blade margins fairly parallel.
2. two or more longitudinal crests or ridges indicating other flakes were removed from the core in the same direction.
Blades are the hallmark of the European Upper Paleolithic period and have antecedents in the Mousterian and perhaps even the late Acheulean periods. Many of the tools made on blades decribed for the European Upper Paleolithic are found also at sites in North America." ....B. Purdy, FLORIDA'S PREHISTORIC STONE TECHNOLOGY

Thank you Harry. You are backing my original thought. I thought paleo, but was happy to hear woodland because I want to find some Person Co. Pottery. I have read that these were used in all times. I really could not say with 100% certainty ! Thanks Harry. Always good to hear your point of view. Now Gator's turn. Lol! Just messin with ya Harry.

 

[Tnmountains]

Nice!!!!!!!! They made that tool in every time frame. Good addition to your collection.

 

[GatorBoy]

I digress.. ha ha. That was an interesting excerpt Harry posted by a very knowledgeable woman. It touches on the theory that north America was first populated via an Atlantic side crossing from northern Europe. VS. the western land bridge theory.

 

[Tnmountains]

The

Solutreans make sense to me as technology seems to have come from the east. More clovis finds in the south east than anywhere else,,,, 20,000 verses 12,000 old. I vote 20,000 as the evidence is leaning that way. Hot topic that one.​

 

[Gunrunner61]

The

Solutreans make sense to me as technology seems to have come from the east. More clovis finds in the south east than anywhere else,,,, 20,000 verses 12,000 old. I vote 20,000 as the evidence is leaning that way. Hot topic that one.​

I'm with you on that! no doubt about it...............HH

 

[GatorBoy]

Very hot. Seems obviousness though...at least to me.

 

[old digger]

To stay on the subject; That is really nice flake knife that you have found. The age usually boils down to what stratum it was found in, or point types it is found with.

 

[NC field hunter]

To stay on the subject; That is really nice flake knife that you have found. The age usually boils down to what stratum it was found in, or point types it is found with.

I'm with you there. I really hope that I have a woodland site! We will see what I come out with tomorrow!

 

[mcb66]

I don't think that is a Woodland piece. You need to look much older. Look up Waller Knife. That micro flaking is amazing, superb piece!

 

[justonemore]

Look up Lamellar blade,very typical of mound culture, Hopewell etc. Good chance of finding pottery on that site.

 

[mcb66]

I think I missed on this one. I have to agree with justonemore. I guess I can blame my earlier post on it being just to early in the morning for artifact ID! It still is an excellent artifact. It's just not every day you see that kind of quality in later lithics.

 

[natchitoches]

Paleoindian & Other Archaeological Stuff

this web site thinks that both ways happen. the big body clovis came down from the northwest and the Solutreans down from the northeast.
the Folsom came from the Solutreans .read more about it here.
really a great read

 

[natchitoches]

here too
http://www.ele.net/thick_bodied/relating.htm

 

[pickaway]

Nice find. Do you know the material? Sure looks like flint ridge from Ohio from the pics...

 

[GatorBoy]

I think I missed on this one. I have to agree with justonemore. I guess I can blame my earlier post on it being just to early in the morning for artifact ID! It still is an excellent artifact. It's just not every day you see that kind of quality in later lithics.

I'm interested in what makes you think that. About the quality of later lithics being somehow lesser.

 

[mcb66]

Look at the Paleo stuff;almost always fine grain, high quality material. Core stones from known quarries were traded all over place. Most Paleo points you see can be traced back to known quarries simply by the quality and type of the material. Try doing that with a standard middle woodland point. It's almost impossible. Not that there aren't some jewels out there. It's just that later people tended to use what was available and not care so much about materials, grain size, etc.. NC field finders blade is not patinated and was created with only 4 strikes, every strike being intentional and exact. Not unlike a Clovis or Folsom point. It is a high quality piece. My point of view is based upon location also. I haven't evaluated many artifacts from areas other than the southeastern U.S. Rules may be different elsewhere.
Michael