ID help what do I have here...military??

[stringfrenzy]

I recovered this aluminum disc today at around 6". Rang up nice on the ETRAC and seems to be an interesting piece. Only problem is I'm not quite sure what it is. I apologize for the pics as I haven't really tried to clean it up much but it could certainly be in better shape.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU
It is about the size of a half dollar
It appears to be made of aluminum about as thick as a half dollar
I can make out details so far such as
Fort Barr. Pensa. Fla.
PVT CO.12 CAC and what looks like maybe the word R. RINGE

Is this piece related to the coast artillery corps.? About how old is it? Can anyone tell me what it is?
Thanks in advance for any help.

 

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[Mackaydon]

You might call Fort Barrancas and ask them: (850) 455-5167
Don.....

 

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[stringfrenzy]

Ok...by all means if I'm reading into this wrong then please someone say something but from what I've seen and heard from everyone on the thread and what little I could find am I correct in assuming that this is a WWI era dog tag for private R. RINGE who was at Fort Barrancas Pensa. Fla. and that this person served in WWI?

 

[taz42o]

Its is a ww1 dog tag,The side with stamped print would have been the original, the name has been scratched out (around the outside edge).
Then someone scratched the info on the other side.
Would have looked like this when issued.
I dont think ringe was the original owner or he would not scratch off his own name.

 

[Mackaydon]

WW I tags were not issued with wreaths.
Don.......

 

[taz42o]

WW I tags were not issued with wreaths.
Don.......

I think the original owners name is under that wreath/scratch marks. someone scratched it off. Then added their info to the other side.

 

[Mackaydon]

It may be an ID tag issued to that soldier while he was stationed at that fort--just not his Service Tag--but a tag for another purpose.
Don.......

 

[stringfrenzy]

It may be an ID tag issued to that soldier while he was stationed at that fort--just not his Service Tag--but a tag for another purpose.
Don.......

I guess that could be a possibility too. I'm really at a loss as to what it is so that I at least know what to call it.lol

Also for everyone that has tried to help identify this item I understand it's not very easy to read with the condition of the piece but I have tried to get some better pictures. Not sure if it helps or hurts. Just trying to understand this piece. Thanks again.

 

[SCDigginWithAK]

It may be an ID tag issued to that soldier while he was stationed at that fort--just not his Service Tag--but a tag for another purpose.
Don.......

Thats what i was saying earlier. Mackayladon and I are on the same track.

 

[Mackaydon]

Nor am I aware of any WW I dog tag specifying a location; only name, unit, etc.
Don...

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

name/rank /serial number/ religion optional

 

[stringfrenzy]

So rather than being a WWI era dog tag it's more likely a WWI era identification tag or sorts in a sense that was altered or customized by this R. Ringe.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

If it is aluminum it likely doesn't pre-date 1887 and the Bayer Process or it would be too valuable to waste on an ID tag.

 

[stringfrenzy]

Was it perhaps common for people to scratch or engrave information or designs into the back of tags like this?

 

[Mackaydon]

stringfrenzy,
More common were coin love tokens.
Don.....

 

[stringfrenzy]

Ok...just a thought. Thanks.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Could be a number of things. He could have lost his Military issued ID and then made one himself til his new one got to him,etc. I gave you the name of a R Ringe in the first page of this thread, I would highly recommend looking into that soldier who served in WWI...

 

[ivan salis]

* most likely around WW1 era time frame wise dog tag --- lost by * Pvt (private) R. Ringe (most likely -Rienert O. Ringe )-- who was a WW1era vet -- co. 12th cac fort barr. fla ( 12th company- coast artillery company--fort barrancas Pensacola, Fla ----note--fort barr . is short for fort barrancas which is near Pensacola ,Fla.

the front might be pre stamped with lettering (thus ready to issue by rank)-- and their names were " etched" into the rear once issued.--thus the two diifferant looking sides

hope this helps you out.

since the aluminum half dollar sized dog tags were not in use until 1906 * it can not be older than that --the r.ringe ww1 vet is who my money is on .

 

[stringfrenzy]

Big thanks to all who assisted with this. I appreciate all the help that was given. Thanks again.