Im speechless

[mainejman]

I'm speechless

Just pulled this out of the ground about twenty minutes ago pulled over to send.Its either ivory or antler I'm guessing.

 

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[Charl]

Viking? (yes they did make it at least to Newfoundland) It does not look indigenous.

Well, that's not the case at all, so I need to correct your observation. Not only is it indigenous, and not Norse, but it is a known diagnostic style for the indigenous Maritime Archaic complex/tradition/adaptation. The style shown is the style of Maritime Archaic slate points, fits the style to a tee, fits no known Norse style at all, and the only question remaining is what it is actually made of. But it is most certainly indigenous; that's not based on guesswork, it's based on over 100 years of research of that culture.

73dguard, the slate points after which the bone points were modeled are dated thousands of years earlier then any Norse presence on Newfoundland, or Greenland for that matter. These items are found in contexts thousands of years prior to Viking arrival anywhere in the New World.

And, again, the hot pin test will tell you if it's bone or ivory....



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[Salura]

Congrats on the awesome find!

Try the app "mag light" it has a pretty good macro lense-great for close up detail pics. Free iPhone app.

 

[mainejman]

Yes charl ive heard that test and i might give it a try.Will let you know if i do.Im a chicken...

 

[Charl]

Well, that's not the case at all, so I need to correct your observation. Not only is it indigenous, and not Norse, but it is a known diagnostic style for the indigenous Maritime Archaic complex/tradition/adaptation. The style shown is the style of Maritime Archaic slate points, fits the style to a tee, fits no known Norse style at all, and the only question remaining is what it is actually made of. But it is most certainly indigenous; that's not based on guesswork, it's based on over 100 years of research of that culture.

73dguard, the slate points after which the bone points were modeled are dated thousands of years earlier then any Norse presence on Newfoundland, or Greenland for that matter. These items are found in contexts thousands of years prior to Viking arrival anywhere in the New World.

And, again, the hot pin test will tell you if it's bone or ivory....



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Yes charl ive heard that test and i might give it a try.Will let you know if i do.Im a chicken...

I would be be too, and as I just found out, ivory smells with that test as well, so the test may not prove anything anyway.

 

[Tnmountains]

Its been a long time now. I think the difference between bone and ivory would be apparent until I looked at a carved bone handle. It may be antler

 

[mainejman]

finally some better pics

My friend let me borrow his microscope heres some pics.Looks like rock......

 

[Tnmountains]

I am voting it is antler

 

[mainejman]

more pics

heres some more pics

 

[monsterrack]

I go along with Tn mnts, at first I thought it was bone but I go with antler.

 

[Charl]

Here is a slate example from Maine that is essentially the style of the point in question here. Photo from Dean Snow's The Archaeology of New England(1980).

 

[outlawatheart]

wow!!

 

[mainejman]

Finally a good look alike thanks charl. Did you see the close up photos i posted?

 

[Charl]

Hi Jay, yes I did see the close ups. Here are some more matches from Dean Snow's The Archaeology of New England and notice that the caption indicates swordfish bills were utilized as material, as well as bone. So, slate, bone, antler, swordfish bills were all used to create the styles shown here. All examples shown are from Maine. So swordfish bill is another material to perhaps consider.