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This collection is composed of shipping documents from historic accounts, books and archives. This is a goldmine of digital documents, images and old maps. Our DVD contains archival material which provides a broad context of the history of navigation and exploration. Documents concerning ship’s officers, crew, and inventories, some from copies of private archives made in the 17th and 18th century contains extensive documentation dealing with spanish fleet instructions, shipboard armament, and provisioning. They are more easily accessed here as most of the records have been carefully inventoried and cross-indexed.

Documents from historic accounts, books and archives verify that in 17th and 18th century the Spanish had been witness to the many spanish ships disaster. Over the years we have identified a large amount of shipwrecks, captains' logs, eyewitness accounts and manifests from private archives. The treasure fleets, called flotas, first sailed into history and legend in the 16th century, when Spain’s powerful, royally controlled Casa de Contratación (House of Trade) ordered merchant ships to travel in convoy, guarded by armed warships. Colonists could legally trade only with merchantmen cleared by the House of Trade. Most of the authorized trade was bestowed upon the flota, which numbered from 30 to 90 ships, depending on the flow of trade and the size of the naval escort.

When a ship went down, her name often vanished with her. The sea soon destroyed manifests, logs, and other papers. Shipworms devoured wooden objects that could be identifying. Marine archaeologists can still learn from wrecks, however.

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Our DVD contains a large collection of documents (also translated into english) related to:

* Spanish Fleet 1606 (San Roque, Santo Domingo, Nuestra Senora de Begona and San
Ambrosio) under general Luis Fernandez de Cordoba.

* Spanish Fleet 1622 and the ship San Agustin which sank in the Florida waters, and other
ships from that fleet.

* Spanish Fleet 1623 and the galeon San Jose under Tomas de Larraspuru which sank in San
Juan de Puerto Rico.

* Spanish Fleet 1623 (tres galeones Nuestra Senora de Iciar, Santisima Trinidad y
Espiritu Santo under don Antonio de Oquendo) which sank in Florida.

* Spanish Fleet 1628 which sank in Matanzas waters, Cuba.

* Spanish Fleet 1630 (galeon Nuestra Senora de Candelaria) under don Tomas de Larraspuru
which sank in Florida waters.

* Spanish Fleet 1631 (La Almiranta Santa Teresa, and La Capitana Nuestra Senora del
Juncal under Miguel de Echazarreta-Manuel Serrano de Rivera) which sank in Vera Cruz
waters.

* Spanish Fleet 1631 and La Almiranta San Jose which sank in Islas Garachine.

* Spanish Fleet 1639 and La Urca Hercules de la Armada de don Geronimo Gomez de Sandoval
which sank in Cayo Libizas.

* Spanish Fleet 1641 and the ships which sank in Los Abrojos waters.

* Spanish Fleet 1642 under don Francisco Diaz Pimienta which sank in Florida waters.

* Spanish Fleet 1656 and the wreck La Madama de Brasil which sank in Bahama waters.

* Spanish Fleet 1660 and the wreck Aviso which sank in Florida waters.

This product is manufactured on demand using DVD-R recordable media.



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Gary
 
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MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
Peerless67 said:
Alexandre said:
From Poland, the land of Pawel?

As the Romans said, caveat emptor.... ;)


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No returns accepted ! :icon_scratch: just send your money :icon_pirat:



Please accept my appologies for bringing the item to the ship wreck sections attention, I shall keep future finds to myself.

Good luck
Gary
 

old man

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Gary, I've already been taken by Pawel Nowak once. I won't let it happen again. I also noticed that the seller is from Poland and I only know one scam artist from there, that calls himself a researcher in the Archives in Spain.
 

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Peerless67 said:
Please accept my appologies for bringing the item to the ship wreck sections attention, I shall keep future finds to myself.

Good luck
Gary

Don't apologize. If you search the archives here, or do a google search of "Pawel Nowak", it'll open your eyes. I've probably been on at least 20 different forums where his name has come up as being "problematic" when it comes to delivering what he promises.
 

barney

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FWIW, this guy has spammed numerous diving lists over the past few days.
Definitely smells like Pawel...
 

capt dom

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I suggest everyone on this forum
copy the auction item number and then go to
spoof@ ebay.com
and report him and them for the con artists that they are.

He is a creative crook I will say.....
He tagged my brother in law and I for $250.00 a piece....

After listening to his initial yarn and looking at what he sent me
I was willing to send him an airplane ticket and hire him!

I figured even if he turned out to be full of crap - I at least could
either point to him or put my hands around his neck! :laughing7:

It was a dead give-a-way when he refused a free trip to sunny Florida
to stay in Poland in the winter time - this guy had another agenda....
:BangHead:
 

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