Kokopelli Painting

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Come on guys, its starting to sound like kindergarten playground braggin..."My daddy's bigger than your daddy"...
 

Come on guys, its starting to sound like kindergarten playground braggin..."My daddy's bigger than your daddy"...











That's funny, I didn't see it that way at all. I thought Charl gave an educated, well written response. Not "braggin" at all. Thanks , Charl for an informative, and cool post.
 

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madeupstuff...

try education..it is a wonderful thing...
nice pottery shard, I suspect it is post contact.

Stop the insults now! Applies to any throwing insults...

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Charl presented an artifact and information regarding that artifact.
Pippinwhitepaws, thanks for the links.
But I wonder, if we chose to pick select pieces of information to present our argument, even though the links provide a much deeper and broader description and history of Kokopelli, who is choosing to rewrite information or history to suite their belief or argument?
 

Not at all. I am simply correcting what I regard as serious misinformation. It's simply far more complex to let such a simplification slide past. Heck, I ain't bragging in the least! I'm speaking up on behalf of the ancient Anasazi and for the knowledge that we do very much possess on those people and their artistic elements. How is that bragging? I'm defending education for heaven's sake. Why would I not? In any event, please understand, I will be the last to actually fight over this should someone chose to argue about it. Believe me, one and all, I will happily simply walk away from this forum then fight at this point. I'm entitled to elaborate on my original post, am I not??? Quite happily walk away. No problem.

look at it this way, stefen. The comment that "everyone's....story is made up" regarding Kokopelli may convey the perception that all interpretations are modern, or just from a Western cultural point of view. I saw the need to clearly point out that included among the "everyone" are the people for whom this iconic character has had a depth of meaning spanning centuries, and whose opinion is likely to be more meaningful then "it's all made up " would potentially suggest to forum members who know nothing at all about the subject. The comment left was simply too simplistic and counter-to-a-better education where the subject is concerned.
That's not bragging, sir.

now if you are talking Pueblo Indians....toss "Zuni" in the mix and things really get STRANGE!!!!!
 

there is no one alive, on earth, who knows what ancient rock art means.
there are people rather well informed, who may make educated guesses.

it is still, the best guess going. <that's a period...and means, what ever the argument you may believe, this is reality.
and it is all the answer you will receive from any anthropologist.<<<< another period.
 

there is no one alive, on earth, who knows what ancient rock art means.
there are people rather well informed, who may make educated guesses.

it is still, the best guess going. <that's a period...and means, what ever the argument you may believe, this is reality.
and it is all the answer you will receive from any anthropologist.<<<< another period.

I agree with you ultimately. However, I have watched documentaries on Machu Picchu and other ruins with tons of hieroglyphs. On these documentaries are people who devote their entire lives to breaking the coded writing. Some have deciphered some pretty nice, logical messages. Those people are far to strange and speak with such intellect I can't take them seriously.
 

Nice sherd Charl I like the decoration on it.
 

Was this piece found in situ or purchased? Anytime you see a perfectly framed motif on a shard......... It makes you wonder.
 

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I saw a theory that they felt that Kokopelli was a trader for goods and before he entered into a camp area he would play his flute so the people of that tribe would know who was coming. It was the best way that trading could be. I found it very interesting. Can you just think of carrying all of those goods and probably some cool colorful stone for trade. I am guessing maybe a horse would be packed with all of the items. How else could somebody carry it all.
Thanks Charlie for giving us this insight and interesting thought.
 

...but horses were a fairly late introduction....
 

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