Zeb said:
Las Vegas Bob said:
Zeb said:
If I may jump in here in minute, I've been extremely interested in the Kokoweef Peak project since I first obtained that video "The Search for America's Great Treasures" Vol. II.
Please help me out here with the following:
1. Who is Las Vegas Bob? I mean, who is he in regard to the original team as in the 1995 video presentation?
Thats me...............Due to mining interest in another state I was not present when said video was shot....
I visited the Kokoweef in the mid 70's? when the only access to the the cavern system (the entrance used by Dorr) was a climb down an eighty foot chain ladder.? There you could see his name smoked on the wall near a massive rock fall.? ? Since that time several tunnels? have been cut to reach that same? area.? ? I? became an active member of the Kokoweef crew in the late 1980's.? I have helped map, drill,? blast and muck out several hundred feet of new tunnels? as well as taking part in seismology surveys.? I have? participated in the drilling holes to run cameras into various areas of the tunnels that peaked our interest.....I have helped with construction projects involving the camp as well.
All my work, as with many others involved was all voluntary...........I am? there for the experience, the fun, the adventure and of course to strike it rich if and when we hit the river.?
2. What ever happened to Larry Hahn and William Herkert? Are they still involved in the project?
Larry Hahn is still active and still runs the operation.? Bill died several years ago.
3. Have any newer videos been produced for this project?
No.
4. Are there any projections as to when the work may be completed?
By work I can only assume you mean the exploration of the area.
We are looking for something that is lost inside a vast mountain that is extremely cavernous, this was a wet cave system in the middle of the desert.? The area's we have explored are now dry and no longer actively growing..? Although we have run across large deposits of wet mud/clay? material in some of areas.? There is no active water flowing? in the areas we have explored.
In fact we have to haul all of our water into the area by tanker truck,? from? commercially operated mine near by.? The water we haul in is for the camp use and for drilling.
As far as when it will the work may be completed...........................When we find what we are looking for.
Thanks much and in behalf of all who will read this I thank you! (whomever).
I hope my answers were sufficient.
WOW!?
Thanks much, LVB
I've watched that old Kokoweef video so many times I almost feel like I'm there.
The information you shared makes the whole story far more interesting as things stand today.
I hope sometime soon a new updated film can be made.
Best to you.
Zeb? ?
Re: kokoweef
? Reply #1 on: Today at 01:34:57 am ?
Zeb, I was the newsletter editor for several years while at Kokoweef.
There ARE still a few old one available, but I have to let you know that knowing what I know now it wouldn't be ethically possible for me to promote "the generic story" of the 'Kokoweef legend.' For instance ...
Has anyone thought of why the huge, ancient city of TROY was lost from knowledge and view for centuries? ... and it was on the surface!
Earl 'Dorr's' so-called "entry" was allegedly small and, later, was intentionally hidden. (i.e. easy to hide then / hard to find nearly 80 years later) The "game of whisper" and intentional disinformation and misinterpretations has done the rest to obscure the "missing information."
25 Years of researching, volunteering and living at Kokoweef Peak has taught me a lot about the legend ... and people.
So, all you Kokoweef geniuses, do you REALLY believe that good old Earl P. Dorr (a practical miner) would give ANYone the complete and correct information regarding an entry location? ... IF and when :
1. ... the entry's deep DESTINATION was involved with someone else's property, which he couldn't file a "clear 'n clean" mining claim on for legal title?
2. ... mining gold (and not turning it into the US Government) would violate Federal law passed in 1933 and other existing business taxes?
2. ... he'd set himself up for manslaughter or murder charges if he had blasted and left skeletons inside "the only known entrance?"
3. ... he might implicate other relatives if they had knowledge of blasted-in-and-left-behind skeletons inside that alledged "only known entrance?"
4. ... he'd be giving away his reward for his hard work when exact information would enable others to keep him "in the cold without the gold?"
5. ... The National Park Service's position, even in the 40's, was to PREVENT "monument quality caverns" from falling into private ownership!
6. ... World War II did SHUT down ALL gold-only mines in America? (Would Earl have left any entry wide open for anyone else to find?)
This legend has everything to do with the psychology of unanalysing imaginations, motivations, deceptions and poor "homework."
There is a BIG difference between BELIEVING in something and KNOWING something.
The Directors and investors in Explorations Inc. of NV have been sincere in their search-efforts at Kokoweef Peak.
At worst, they might be accused of inefficiency, but that is often a limiting nature within volunteering efforts and certainly not criminal.
Suckers are ignorant of "something," informationally, and most of that can be traced back to Earl Dorr's motivations and deceptions, which were let out into the surrounding world of observers to suit his purposes and NOT leave himself disadvantaged.
In my opinion Earl probably survived great odds to become the "great old gent" his nephew Ray experienced. He was a hot-tempered, young cowboy who escaped history to view and live through World War I, The Great Depression, WW II and the advent of the Atomic Age. People may judge him unkindly, based on unproved 'dasturdly deeds,' but I wasn't there with him. And, eventually, I realized that, as it is for everyone:
"Written descriptions by sideline observers are not living experiences."
I can imagine 'ol foxy Earl muttering around his campfire near the Pearly Gates:
I trekked those hills,
Till my bones were old.
They got my BeanS,
But NOT my gold!
