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Large Cent, silver and an old British? coin I need an ID on. (Michigan)

Zofchak

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I'm rather new to metal detecting and today broke the 1800's for the first time and scored my first Barber and a Large Cent all in the same day. Found these in my favorite spot near Detroit. This place saw a lot of activity in the late 1800's and early part of the 1900's. Not a pull tab or a Zinc penny in sight :icon_thumright:

Any suggestions on cleaning up the Indian head and Large Cent to get more details?
 

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only 2 methods I would use is either wet qtips an dry tooth picks or hot peroxide bathe... I WOULD NOT USE olive oil as some will suggest. it will work but ruin the coin in the long run....
 
The coin in question is a Queen Victoria Canadian Dime.Minted from 1858-1901.Nice finds!!!

HH


Greg
 
Rather new to M.Ding, with those finds I would have guessed you've been at it for decade or so.
WOW WEEEEEEE....................
 
Nice coins.Nice detail on the LC. Congrats. Hogge :headbang:
 
greg23 said:
The coin in question is a Queen Victoria Canadian Dime.Minted from 1858-1901.Nice finds!!!

HH


Greg
Thanks for the ID on the Canadian Dime! I find lots of Canadian dimes, but until now had never found one this old.
 
creeper71 said:
only 2 methods I would use is either wet qtips an dry tooth picks or hot peroxide bathe... I WOULD NOT USE olive oil as some will suggest. it will work but ruin the coin in the long run....

I wish people would quit saying that olive oil or baby oil will ruin coins,THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!I have been told by several collectors and dealers that the oil will not hurt the coins.
I have cleaned every large cent and indian head coin i have found with one or both and i have been doing this for 15yrs and not one of the coins i have cleaned is ruined.....
 
teverly said:
creeper71 said:
only 2 methods I would use is either wet qtips an dry tooth picks or hot peroxide bathe... I WOULD NOT USE olive oil as some will suggest. it will work but ruin the coin in the long run....

I wish people would quit saying that olive oil or baby oil will ruin coins,THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!I have been told by several collectors and dealers that the oil will not hurt the coins.
I have cleaned every large cent and indian head coin i have found with one or both and i have been doing this for 15yrs and not one of the coins i have cleaned is ruined.....

I have used it quite a few times and it does nothing to help clean coins that are in this condition. It won't ruin the coin but I have yet to have it make the coin look any better either. How long are you soaking them in olive oil to get a cleaning effect? I have left Indians in olive oil for two weeks and they look like they did the day I put them in. Are you just getting the green off or are you really cleaning the crud with the olive oil?

Can anyone explain how to use the Olive oil to CLEAN a coin? I hear people saying to use it and I hear them saying not to. I'm not sure it matters either way?

HH,
Dave
 
I use the olive oil method to remove dirt. After soaking for a while, I brush the coins with a soft toothbrush to loosen the dirt from the coin. I usually have to do this process multiple times to get dirt from all the crevices.
 
This is scottso here ,I busted my chops looking for a match and Is a Its a young queen victoria 1 shilling 1880s nice finds happy hunting
 
Nice digs!

HH
 
greg23 said:
The coin in question is a Queen Victoria Canadian Dime.Minted from 1858-1901.Nice finds!!!

HH


Greg

yeap!

Scottso said:
This is scottso here ,I busted my chops looking for a match and Is a Its a young queen victoria 1 shilling 1880s nice finds happy hunting

Nope
 
Again thank you for the help in identifying the dime. Looking at it closely it's definitely a Canadian Dime, but the Shilling is very similar.

I cleaned up the Large Cent with the hot peroxide method and gave it a light coating of petroleum jelly. It turned out pretty good :thumbsup:
 

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Drodda777 said:
teverly said:
creeper71 said:
only 2 methods I would use is either wet qtips an dry tooth picks or hot peroxide bathe... I WOULD NOT USE olive oil as some will suggest. it will work but ruin the coin in the long run....

I wish people would quit saying that olive oil or baby oil will ruin coins,THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!I have been told by several collectors and dealers that the oil will not hurt the coins.
I have cleaned every large cent and indian head coin i have found with one or both and i have been doing this for 15yrs and not one of the coins i have cleaned is ruined.....

I have used it quite a few times and it does nothing to help clean coins that are in this condition. It won't ruin the coin but I have yet to have it make the coin look any better either. How long are you soaking them in olive oil to get a cleaning effect? I have left Indians in olive oil for two weeks and they look like they did the day I put them in. Are you just getting the green off or are you really cleaning the crud with the olive oil?

Can anyone explain how to use the Olive oil to CLEAN a coin? I hear people saying to use it and I hear them saying not to. I'm not sure it matters either way?

HH,
Dave

I think it is a matter of MDists being seduced into believing that they are helping the eye appeal of the coin.

When you put oil on the coin, it maintains the "wet" look and more detail may be visible. I use the oil from my fingertips to lightly go over the very high points in the design and bring out detail, for example. I've had great luck with that method after peroxide cleaning, for example. Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner or Renaissance Wax will do the same thing, but those do not contain the fatty acids which will destroy a coin over a long period of time.

Toothbrushing can remove the detail, but a wet cotton swab rolled over the surface of the coin will remove the dirt and leave the patina if the patina is fragile.

Regards,


Buckles
 
Zofchak said:
Again thank you for the help in identifying the dime. Looking at it closely it's definitely a Canadian Dime, but the Shilling is very similar.

I cleaned up the Large Cent with the hot peroxide method and gave it a light coating of petroleum jelly. It turned out pretty good :thumbsup:

Pretty good? It came out excellent! What a beauty!
 
WOW!!! That LC came out looking amazing!!!!! HH :headbang:
 
Wow, you got great results from the hot peroxide bath. Never seems to work out for me. But, yours had quite a bit of detail to begin with. That's the key I guess. Once the details are gone, there's no bringing them back.

Great job and congrats. She's a beauty !!!

Brian in MA
 
BuckleBoy said:
When you put oil on the coin, it maintains the "wet" look and more detail may be visible. I use the oil from my fingertips to lightly go over the very high points in the design and bring out detail, for example. I've had great luck with that method after peroxide cleaning, for example. Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner or Renaissance Wax will do the same thing, but those do not contain the fatty acids which will destroy a coin over a long period of time.

Toothbrushing can remove the detail, but a wet cotton swab rolled over the surface of the coin will remove the dirt and leave the patina if the patina is fragile.

Regards,
Buckles

http://metaldetectingworld.com/cleaning_coin_p6_mechanical.shtml

This site has lots of information about all the cleaning methods.
 
Neil in West Jersey said:
Zofchak said:
Again thank you for the help in identifying the dime. Looking at it closely it's definitely a Canadian Dime, but the Shilling is very similar.

I cleaned up the Large Cent with the hot peroxide method and gave it a light coating of petroleum jelly. It turned out pretty good :thumbsup:

Pretty good? It came out excellent! What a beauty!

Heck yeah! :thumbsup: :headbang:
 

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