Largies Draped half and a Silver Spoon

Fentonian

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Had a great hunt yesterday afternoon at a productive early site
Here is the keepers
1827 large cent
1848 large cent
1851 large cent
Silver baby spoon with stamps(anyone able to help with what the stamps represent?)
Early copper ring
Early square holed copper coin?( looks worn smooth but any help on a possible i.d would be appreciated!)
Draped bust half cent (unable to get date, sure it’s a half and I see her looking to the right so I believe it’s an early one.
Flat and tombac buttons
Etc…
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Red-Coat

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Great bunch of finds and that spoon would have been a lovely thing when purchased. Those appear to be English silver hallmarks, but unfortunately too worn/damaged to read the full set. There’s a duty mark (monarch’s head in an oval cartouche, but too worn to say which monarch), which only appears on English silver between 1784-1890, and a date letter as an upper case serifed Roman ‘F’.

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Our hallmark formats, together with date letter sequences and font style are specific to each assay office, so it’s not possible to be completely certain about dating since the assay office mark is unreadable. So too is the sponsor/maker mark, so that doesn’t help to narrow it down

As far as I can tell, both the sterling mark and the date letter are in square cartouches with chamfered corners and no point or tail on the lower edge. On that basis, my guess would be Birmingham 1854:

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Note that the order of the marks is not mandated, although the convention is that assay office and sterling marks are usually first, followed by duty mark and date letter, and then sponsor/maker mark… but it’s only a convention with numerous variations.

If it’s not Victoria’s head in the duty mark then there are earlier possibilities (including other assay offices), but the format of the cartouches for the sterling mark and the date letter don’t readily support that from what I can see.
 

pepperj

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Well done, the site treated you well.
Is there a better picture of the monarch/maker marks on the spoon?

Great design markings, reeks colonial. 👍
 

CRUSADER

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Great bunch of finds and that spoon would have been a lovely thing when purchased. Those appear to be English silver hallmarks, but unfortunately too worn/damaged to read the full set. There’s a duty mark (monarch’s head in an oval cartouche, but too worn to say which monarch), which only appears on English silver between 1784-1890, and a date letter as an upper case serifed Roman ‘F’.

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Our hallmark formats, together with date letter sequences and font style are specific to each assay office, so it’s not possible to be completely certain about dating since the assay office mark is unreadable. So too is the sponsor/maker mark, so that doesn’t help to narrow it down

As far as I can tell, both the sterling mark and the date letter are in square cartouches with chamfered corners and no point or tail on the lower edge. On that basis, my guess would be Birmingham 1854:

View attachment 2056554

Note that the order of the marks is not mandated, although the convention is that assay office and sterling marks are usually first, followed by duty mark and date letter, and then sponsor/maker mark… but it’s only a convention with numerous variations.

If it’s not Victoria’s head in the duty mark then there are earlier possibilities (including other assay offices), but the format of the cartouches for the sterling mark and the date letter don’t readily support that from what I can see.
I can't see the Duty Mark (King or Queens Head) well enough, but the style of spoon looks earlier than Victorian to me. Not 100% sure, more a hunch.
 

Lenrac2

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Awesome finds! Congrats!!
 

Digger RJ

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Had a great hunt yesterday afternoon at a productive early site
Here is the keepers
1827 large cent
1848 large cent
1851 large cent
Silver baby spoon with stamps(anyone able to help with what the stamps represent?)
Early copper ring
Early square holed copper coin?( looks worn smooth but any help on a possible i.d would be appreciated!)
Draped bust half cent (unable to get date, sure it’s a half and I see her looking to the right so I believe it’s an early one.
Flat and tombac buttons
Etc…
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Very Cool!!!!! Congrats!!!!
 

JeffInMass

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Don't know how those beauties made it from Mass to Ohio, but sure glad they did for you- Big time Congrats!!
 

tamrock

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Looks like you came across a nice hot spot. I've never had much enjoyment with a MD in my area due to the history just doesn't produce anything like what's found in the eastern regions of the country. Still its fun to search with the eyes for rocks, artifacts and relics.
 

Clovis4343

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Looks like you had a great day..congrats on saving some history
 

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