Latin Letters in a Cave

[okey dokey]

Fadel,
How far back do you want to go since the early Koine greek the New Testament of the Bible was written in has the small omega.
okey dokey

 

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[FadelMS]

Fadel,
How far back do you want to go since the early Koine greek the New Testament of the Bible was written in has the small omega.
okey dokey

Thanks okey dokey for your remark. This means that the information in the mentioned web site is not accurate because they omitted the small omega from ancient Greek and added it to the modren Greek alphabet only. Your comment is valuable in trying to date the script, and the possibility of being ancient is still valid.

 

[starsplitter]

Fadel...

I've sent this to another professor at a local university. Maybe he will come up with something more tangible. I'll let you know if he replies.

I think the crusader cross (if it is a cross), may be significant. Check the depth of the drill hole. You may also consider taking measurements of the carving itself.

 

[FadelMS]

This is a photo of the sign which accompanies the script.

 

[starsplitter]

Got me Fadel... still looks like some sort of crusader cross to me. But, I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Is this the same carving you drew in a previous post?

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Looks like a hurried verson of this:

 

[FadelMS]

Got me Fadel... still looks like some sort of crusader cross to me. But, I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Is this the same carving you drew in a previous post?

Yes, starsplitter, it is the same carving. Taking a picture for this sign wasn't easy. I tried to wash it with water but it didn't help, so I used chalk to make it clearer. Besides, the cave looks like a circular well (8 meters deep) but it wasn't meant to hold water. The opening of the cave is surrounded by remains of a building and there are no channels to carry water to it, that is why I think it is not a well.

Even though the script is Greek, I think the sings are either Roman or Crusader with religious significance. Could it be a priest's tomb?

Blind.In.Texas, does the cross you posted have any special significance? It looks like a Crusader cross.

 

[starsplitter]

Could the carving be a map of the "well" floor? Or, could it be a map of the site itself - the cross intersect or hole representing the center of the site? Just a thought. Also, the measurements might be of importance.

You might want to get a double box detector in there and plot the hits (have no idea the diameter). In a site that old, a smaller unit might turn up something valuable too (doesn't have to be a cache).

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Got me Fadel... still looks like some sort of crusader cross to me. But, I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Is this the same carving you drew in a previous post?

Yes, starsplitter, it is the same carving. Taking a picture for this sign wasn't easy. I tried to wash it with water but it didn't help, so I used chalk to make it clearer. Besides, the cave looks like a circular well (8 meters deep) but it wasn't meant to hold water. The opening of the cave is surrounded by remains of a building and there are no channels to carry water to it, that is why I think it is not a well.

Even though the script is Greek, I think the sings are either Roman or Crusader with religious significance. Could it be a priest's tomb?

Blind.In.Texas, does the cross you posted have any special significance? It looks like a Crusader cross.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross.htm
This is image should be of should special interest:

My proprietary version:

 

[FadelMS]

Thanks Blind.In.Texas, this leads us to believe that the sign is crusader since they were the first to adopt the eight-pointed cross. By the way, the site is close to Kerak Castle which had been rebuilt by the Crusaders.

 

[FadelMS]

Could the carving be a map of the "well" floor? Or, could it be a map of the site itself - the cross intersect or hole representing the center of the site? Just a thought. Also, the measurements might be of importance.

You might want to get a double box detector in there and plot the hits (have no idea the diameter). In a site that old, a smaller unit might turn up something valuable too (doesn't have to be a cache).

starsplitter, the same idea occured to a member in another forum. He asked me to look for a hidden passage in the walls. The passage would lead to another room where the tomb would be burried.

 

[starsplitter]

Fadel, does the floor of the cave have any indentations (holes) in it? Also, have you checked for any mirror imaging? Curious here. I have not heard back from the university. If nothing comes in by next week, I'll try another source. I think parts of your inscription might be a code, that would explain the inconsistencies. Take care.

 

[FadelMS]

Fadel, does the floor of the cave have any indentations (holes) in it? Also, have you checked for any mirror imaging? Curious here. I have not heard back from the university. If nothing comes in by next week, I'll try another source. I think parts of your inscription might be a code, that would explain the inconsistencies. Take care.

starsplitter, the floor is covered with debris (1.5 meters high) as a result of random digging by other people. I'm planning with some friends to clean it which will take some time.

Also, have you checked for any mirror imaging?

I am not sure if there are any other signs or mirror images either on the floor or on the hidden part of the walls, but a friend of mine, who saw the cave when it was clean, said that there was a square shape carved on one of the walls.

 

[emtrescue]

See if this helps. Also - might want to check out the copper scroll. (just in case)

 

[FadelMS]

starsplitter, Blind.In.Texas:
I'v come across a cross which has some similarities with the one posted above. This cross has been found in a Byzantine church in Petra.
The mosaic floor has Greek letters and the church is Byzantine, which makes me believe that the sings I found are Byzantine.

 

[Curtis]

Interesting stuff...could the drill hole be a place to put a dowel rod or similar round piece of material that would be used as a hub...then a cut out circular disk with a hole the same size as the rod, the disk would turn/spin on the rod covering certain aspects of the design and may have something drawn/written on it to complete the design/writing. It may also be that a certain length rod would be place in the hole, and the end with a piece of string with a plumb bob would indicate where to dig?This may be reaching but what other purpose would the innocent looking hole serve?

 

[paratrooper]

What direction does the entrance of the cave face ?

 

[FadelMS]

What direction does the entrance of the cave face ?

In fact it is a well but it is not meant to hold water.

 

[starsplitter]

Fadel...

The cross does look Templar and Byzantine. I vaguely remember that Constantine's wife built at least one church in the region (Jerusalem), probably more. I wonder if there may be a connection?

Fadel, I think you need to consider the geology of the immediate site. And, try to get some technology to scan floor, walls, etc. for objects and voids ("empty spaces" in case it doesn't translate). I think there are some experts within the forum that could provide some objective ideas and opinions on products. I imagine they would be very, very expensive. But, maybe renting is a possibility.

By the way, gold may not be the "treasure" that awaits. I think it would be wonderful to discover manuscripts. Very exciting. h

Starsplitter