lock ID please, well I guess this stumps the experts?

[Broken knee]

lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

I found this lock in the eaves of a 1780 farmhouse that I am working on. The size is 3" x 4" x 7/8" the keyhole cover is missing.
any info appreciated thanks in advance,
Broken Knee

 

[Sky Pilot]

Re: lock ID please

Hello Broken Knee!
Very cool find!
Does it have any writing on it at all? It doesn't appear to from what I can see.
What is it made from? It looks as if it may be iron in the pics.
I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks here on TNet, someone will be able to help!
Great job with the tape measure also!

Regards, SkyPilot

 

[Broken knee]

Re: lock ID please

Hello Broken Knee!
Very cool find!
Does it have any writing on it at all? It doesn't appear to from what I can see.
What is it made from? It looks as if it may be iron in the pics.
I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks here on TNet, someone will be able to help!
Great job with the tape measure also!

Regards, SkyPilot

it is iron and there is no writing on it just a peach color milk paint the saving grace is that it was in the eave so it is operable if the key were found.

 

[Sky Pilot]

Re: lock ID please


If BigCypress or BuckleBoy read this, chances are they'll be able to identify it for you!

Great find, I hope you run across the key while you are working there, that would be fantastic!

Regards, SkyPilot

 

[daroofa]

Re: lock ID please

I couldn't find an exact match, but based on the shape/design of others I looked at, I would guess 1880's or 90's.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: lock ID please

I have seen and dug pre-CW era locks of this same shape and size. Hard to believe that's that old, because I have never seen one in non-dug condition...but I will do some looking for you.


-Buck

 

[dick99344]

Re: lock ID please

I can't help with the age of this lock much, but I can tell you that it takes a warded barrel bit key of some size. HH

Dicks Lock Service

 

[Broken knee]

Re: lock ID please

I can't help with the age of this lock much, but I can tell you that it takes a warded barrel bit key of some size. HH

Dicks Lock Service

Might you have a pic. of the type of key?
Broken Knee

 

[Breezie]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

The shape and side indention of your lock reminds me of the iron one I dug recently. It didn't have any writing on it either, yet it had the company logo in the brass center. I think both of our locks are circa 1850's, but yours could be slightly older. Below are a few pics of mine, and a pic I found on google showing the type of key. Here's an antique lock forum: http://www.antique-locks.com/forum.php

Nice find, Breezie

 

[OmgFathead]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

Found this, http://www.lockcollectors.eu/gazetteer/museum_locks_gazetteer_gazsra-tzz.htm . About half way down it shows a lock that looks like the same body and gives a brief description of the company and time period.

 

[Broken knee]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

I found this lock in the eaves of a 1780 farmhouse that I am working on. The size is 3" x 4" x 7/8" the keyhole cover is missing.
any info appreciated thanks in advance,
Broken Knee

Thanks for the information everyone,
I gave the lock and bottles to the owner of the house. I just wanted to date the lock for his info.
the bottles and lock were posted in Today's finds also under boozers stash

 

[dick99344]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

The shape and side indention of your lock reminds me of the iron one I dug recently. It didn't have any writing on it either, yet it had the company logo in the brass center. I think both of our locks are circa 1850's, but yours could be slightly older. Below are a few pics of mine, and a pic I found on google showing the type of key. Here's an antique lock forum: http://www.antique-locks.com/forum.php

Nice find, Breezie

That is the typical Barrel bit warded key for that type of lock. The lock would have a single ward. The cut in the bit would pass the ward in the lock and the "Foot" of the bit would trip the release mechanism, usually a spring steel device holding the shackle closed.
You would have to turn the key 360 degrees to open the lock and remove the key. If the bit were blank, meaning uncut, the key would not pass the ward. These keys were usually cast and the bitting (The cut) would be hand finished. The greater the number of wards enclosed within the lock, the better the security. There is a popular modern pad lock made today using this same technology. HH

Dicks Lock Service

 

[Lucas]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

These shape locks were made for a long time, but with this key type, it is most likely later 1800's. Better early locks used lots of wards.

2nd Breezie posted--that's early 1800's up to Sears Catalogue, 1st is in 1897 Sears cat.

 

[traderoftreasures]

Re: lock ID please, well I guess this stump's the experts?

Found this, http://www.lockcollectors.eu/gazetteer/museum_locks_gazetteer_gazsra-tzz.htm . About half way down it shows a lock that looks like the same body and gives a brief description of the company and time period.

nice id