Lost Treasure Tales?......Poll

treasurejack · Apr 3, 2007

Anybody want to guess at what this petroglyph says? It was carved by Paiute chief Swift Hawk after his raid of the Mormon wagon train. A real treasure map or just a general story of his raiding party's journey?

TreasureTales · Apr 3, 2007

TJ, that's weird looking, even for a petroglyph! It may contain some of their gods, or some of their ancestors, or who-knows-what. I've got a few petroglyph books lying around, I'll see if any of them have this particular series of glyphs inside. If I help you decipher the story, I get half the cache, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.

OK, here's what I've got so far, from the book The Rocks Begin to Speak by LaVan Martineau.

#1 represents a dead person. #2 represents going under or dying. So maybe 5 adults went under and 5 children also died at the site represented by this panel. There are many symbols combined together which would mean much activity and many emotionals or abstract feelings took place. According to the book, petroglyphs and pictographs may have been the written version of sign language.

Night Stalker · Apr 3, 2007

I believe that all those old tales and stories were fact based at one time or another, over time though, they became over-exaggerated and blew out of proportion.

Nice Poll BTW....Night Stalker

treasurejack · Apr 3, 2007

TreasureTales said:
TJ, that's weird looking, even for a petroglyph! It may contain some of their gods, or some of their ancestors, or who-knows-what. I've got a few petroglyph books lying around, I'll see if any of them have this particular series of glyphs inside. If I help you decipher the story, I get half the cache, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.

OK, here's what I've got so far, from the book The Rocks Begin to Speak by LaVan Martineau.

#1 represents a dead person. #2 represents going under or dying. So maybe 5 adults went under and 5 children also died at the site represented by this panel. There are many symbols combined together which would mean much activity and many emotionals or abstract feelings took place. According to the book, petroglyphs and pictographs may have been the written version of sign language.

#1 & #2........lost me already? Which symbols are you talking about? lol

TreasureTales · Apr 3, 2007

treasurejack said:
TreasureTales said:

TJ, that's weird looking, even for a petroglyph! It may contain some of their gods, or some of their ancestors, or who-knows-what. I've got a few petroglyph books lying around, I'll see if any of them have this particular series of glyphs inside. If I help you decipher the story, I get half the cache, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.

OK, here's what I've got so far, from the book The Rocks Begin to Speak by LaVan Martineau.

#1 represents a dead person. #2 represents going under or dying. So maybe 5 adults went under and 5 children also died at the site represented by this panel. There are many symbols combined together which would mean much activity and many emotionals or abstract feelings took place. According to the book, petroglyphs and pictographs may have been the written version of sign language.

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#1 & #2........lost me already? Which symbols are you talking about? lol

Oops, sorry, LOL forgot to load your picture with my notes on it. I'll go back to that post and modify it again - this time with the pic and my notes.

TreasureTales · Apr 3, 2007

Pond with a stream coming out of it? Or a dry lake?

TreasureTales · Apr 3, 2007

These two figures (circled in lavendar) seem to be very similar, except one is emphasized and one is faint. One is major and one is minor? Or one represents something recent and the other one represents something historic?

Jeffro · Apr 3, 2007

If the story is true, it MAY be gone already. One hangout for teenagers down there is a short walk up a dry wash, the trail is clear nowadays, but it'd be a bear in earlier days. There is a mine shaft in there that is completely obscured from every viewpoint, except when you're right on top of it. Big boulder blocks the entrance. There are no tailings evident and the shaft is empty.

Someone went through a lot of trouble to hide this thing, and there are no visible veins.

treasurejack · Apr 3, 2007

Jeffro said:
If the story is true, it MAY be gone already. One hangout for teenagers down there is a short walk up a dry wash, the trail is clear nowadays, but it'd be a bear in earlier days. There is a mine shaft in there that is completely obscured from every viewpoint, except when you're right on top of it. Big boulder blocks the entrance. There are no tailings evident and the shaft is empty.

Someone went through a lot of trouble to hide this thing, and there are no visible veins.

Is it possible to get around the boulder somehow? If you can, it might be worth a quick check with a modern MDing machine? Perhaps the immediate area surrounding the shaft as well?

Jeffro · Apr 3, 2007

You can go inside through a small opening at the base of the boulder, the kids hang out there and drink beer from time to time. I wasn't into detecting at the time, but now that I look back, it is an odd place that doesn't make sense.

If it was a pocket, why hide it when its worked out?

If it was a mine, they went through a lot of trouble disposing of tailings, and there is no vein that I could see.

Only thing I can think of, it was a hidey hole, and its empty. If you're in that neck of the woods, I may be able to locate it on google earth.

----- I just went and tried google, man that place sure changed.... when I left, Rainbow was the edge of town. We use to ride quads where the Redrock country club is now. Also found an old car buried out there, riddled with bulletholes.

Anyways, I couldn't locate the spot precisely, but its up one of those washes near the water collection place they built. There's only three, and its a short ways in. Look on the EAST hillside when hiking in if you go.

treasurejack · Apr 3, 2007

Jeffro said:
You can go inside through a small opening at the base of the boulder, the kids hang out there and drink beer from time to time. I wasn't into detecting at the time, but now that I look back, it is an odd place that doesn't make sense.

If it was a pocket, why hide it when its worked out?

If it was a mine, they went through a lot of trouble disposing of tailings, and there is no vein that I could see.

Only thing I can think of, it was a hidey hole, and its empty. If you're in that neck of the woods, I may be able to locate it on google earth.

----- I just went and tried google, man that place sure changed.... when I left, Rainbow was the edge of town. We use to ride quads where the Redrock country club is now. Also found an old car buried out there, riddled with bulletholes.

Anyways, I couldn't locate the spot precisely, but its up one of those washes near the water collection place they built. There's only three, and its a short ways in. Look on the EAST hillside when hiking in if you go.