Mid-Missouri Civil War relics- update* George III copper?

[umrgolf]

update** I know this thing is toast and not cleaned very well but is this an early 1800's George III

measures 33mm across, thinking 1806-1807 George III penny (34mm)



No Banner stuff, but plenty of camps here to keep me busy. I don't get out a whole lot now about once every couple of weeks, but still nice to go from time to time

 

[Getty]

Re: Mid-Missouri Civil War relics

Is your odd bullet a .46 cal Slanting Breech variety? What are the measurements and weight?

don't have a weight scale but it's a .44 cal for sure, just measured it

Still could be Slanting Breech. .44 cal was what I meant. Check out M&M #s 196,197,& 198. They look like yours.

 

[tndigger2011]

Re: Mid-Missouri Civil War relics

nice work we need to make a trip up to VA if you have time, great finds looks like some crazy type of sharps bullet there, dont think ive ever seen one of those

 

[umrgolf]

Re: Mid-Missouri Civil War relics

nice work we need to make a trip up to VA if you have time, great finds looks like some crazy type of sharps bullet there, dont think ive ever seen one of those

i always have time, just pm me when you were thinking about goin and we'll head that way

 

[nsdq]

you be able to sweet talk a farmer in lone jack on 50 hwy they find stuff in the fields all the time

 

[sscindercoop]

Nice digs

 

[birdman]

Glad your back home and it looks like you picked up where you left off.

 

[Sniffy]

It really does look like a late date KGIII, quite the find for Missouri.

 

[uglymailman]

Jeff, mid-MO takes in a lot of territory. If you are close to Sedalia, there's a story shows up in their paper every couple of yrs. about a pre Unpleasantness Between the States find just south of Sedalia. Farmers found a dugout w/ a mummified man in full British uniform. Thought to be British agent sent to incite Natives during War of 1812. As I understand it they gave him a burial but his sword was taken and its present location is unknown.
Of course coins can show up from anywhere. Nice find & good luck.

 

[ASG3]

Great finds, Jeff If you plan a trip East this winter let me know

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Heavymetalnut wrote:
> I'd like a ID on this bullet. Is it a sharps? and what is a sharps anyways?

The name Sharps can refer to the firearms OR the bullets invented by Christian Sharps in the late-1840s and 1850s. About Umrgolf's bullet, the name Sharps refers to any of the SEVERAL distinct forms of bullets which Mr. Sharps designed for his firearms. Some examples are Sharps "Multigroove" bullet, Sharps "Ringtail" bullet, and Sharps "Commercial" bullet.

Heavymetalnut, the bullet you posted is a post-civil-war era bullet manufactured by H.W. Mason for use in Colt pistols. That info (with photos) is in the book titled "A Handbook of Civil War Bullets & Cartridges" (by Jim & Dean Thomas) ...which says Mason's bullets for Colt pistols are distinguished from other Colt bullets by having a "tapered edge around base and a noticeable sprue." See bullets #29 and 34 in that book.

 

[Don in SJ]

Jeff, not sure anybody replied fully to your KGIII coin, but sure looks like a KGIII SOHO mint penny. Never saw the penny from those years, I have a couple of the halfpence.

Here is a description statement from a website and below a link to a website on the SOHO mint coins.......

In 1806 and 1807, another 150 tons of copper was coined into pennies at the Soho Mint, although this time the money was a token coinage with each penny only containing 18.9 grams of copper and being 34 millimetres in diameter. These were more conventionally-designed coins, with a right facing bust of the king and ordinary inscription GEORGIUS III D G REX date, and the obverse showing the seated Britannia facing left, with olive branch and trident and the inscription BRITANNIA.
And this link for reference:

http://sohomint.info/coinage1806.html

Don

 

[Silver Searcher]

Sorry for the late reply Jeff just seen this thread now I can see that you are back making the great posts I agree with Don...soho penny, I got one on Sunday along with the Silvers.

SS

 

[umrgolf]

Jeff, not sure anybody replied fully to your KGIII coin, but sure looks like a KGIII SOHO mint penny. Never saw the penny from those years, I have a couple of the halfpence.

Here is a description statement from a website and below a link to a website on the SOHO mint coins.......

In 1806 and 1807, another 150 tons of copper was coined into pennies at the Soho Mint, although this time the money was a token coinage with each penny only containing 18.9 grams of copper and being 34 millimetres in diameter. These were more conventionally-designed coins, with a right facing bust of the king and ordinary inscription GEORGIUS III D G REX date, and the obverse showing the seated Britannia facing left, with olive branch and trident and the inscription BRITANNIA.
And this link for reference:

http://sohomint.info/coinage1806.html

Don

thank you for the info, I had an idea that's what it was.. glad to hear a few of you guys agree I have to imagine it's a CW soldier drop considering my county was established in 1845 or so and it was right in the middle of a campsite

Sorry for the late reply Jeff just seen this thread now I can see that you are back making the great posts I agree with Don...soho penny, I got one on Sunday along with the Silvers.

SS

Thanks
glad to have this George III copper, last thing I would have guessed to be my first Missouri copper

 

[Nana40]

And WarsawDaddy keeps telling me I need to move to MO.
Wow! What a great variety of finds! Way to go!

Nana