Well being a guy who really only metal detected for a couple years, and tried both machines, se pro and whites dfx about seven years ago, I would say if you want to just start finding goodies easily with no learning curve, meaning if you arent gonna go detecing all the time whites wins, but if you put in the hours required to get used the minelab, you will not be dissapointed, I can say when I first started with the minelab I was mad I thought what a piece of junk for a thousand bucks lol, guys with ace 250's were kicking my butt, but I kept trying and after about 50 hours I started learning the sounds, no machine makes a more beautiful sound than a minelab when finding silver, in fact it is so beautiful, you will have to dig it, lol, now when the silver is deep say more than six inches you will still hear the sound but it is faint, and you really have to learn to swing the minelab it is a slower recovery machine, not that thats bad because it discriminates ten times better than whites, and really does find deeper silver even silver leaning up agaist a nail, if you swing it the right pace it will pick up a silver dime leaning perpendicular with a nail, I have seen people doing comparisons comparing the two, and they are not swinging the minelab properly, they are two different machines, if you want to go find coins clad, silver etc fast with virtually no learning curve get whites, but the truth is if you want the coins everyone else has missed and you put in the effort to learn the minelab you will love it, and I hated it for the first 50 hours of use, I am purchasing a e trac and I hope it is better than the se as everyone has said it is, becasue i loved the se after getting used to it.