MINELAB SE VS WHITES DFX

[Jason in TN]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Have used both. If depth is your thing go minelab.
If more controls, Much more accurate depth and Vid # readings is what you are after and much more comfort.
Go with the DFX.
Did I mention shoulder surgery is expensive.

 

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[Jack(IN)]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Have used both. If depth is your thing go minelab.
If more controls, Much more accurate depth and Vid # readings is what you are after and much more comfort.
Go with the DFX.
Did I mention shoulder surgery is expensive.

Must be swinging it wrong then and weight difference isn't that great. I've used a Minelab for over six years with no problem. My father(75) is using a Minelab and he just had quadruple bypass surgery in February and swings, tho he tires easily now he still digs his Seated coins and makes me look bad doing it!!

 

[JW]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Keep your DFXs guys, Explorers are obviously too much machine for y'all.

Too heavy, too deep, too powerful!

Unless you have done a side by side and seen the results you don't know what your talking about.
Nobody who has seen these two side by side would argue that the DFX is better, nobody!

The DFX messed up my lower back because of that box, that rattles, creates interference, catches dirt into the speaker... :P

HH

JW

 

[DFX-SE Gregg]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Keep your DFXs guys, Explorers are obviously too much machine for y'all.

Too heavy, too deep, too powerful!

Unless you have done a side by side and seen the results you don't know what your talking about.
Nobody who has seen these two side by side would argue that the DFX is better, nobody!

The DFX messed up my lower back because of that box, that rattles, creates interference, catches dirt into the speaker... :P

HH

JW

Should have bought the $10 weatherbeater cover ...don't be so cheap...And I have talked to several people that own both..and said the dfx is better at pinpointing and the explorer goes deeper...each detector has its place in their collection but they would not do without either...

 

[Stormtrooper154]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Being a former DFX owner and a Current SE owner, I can comment on this.  The people that buy the Minelab are looking for a detector that gets depth.  Depth that other detectors cant offer....And they do just that!  Take a look at the posts people!  Minelab users post how much happier they are with the performance or finds they are making.  Then the Whites people comment about how their machines are "Made in the USA", or "Weigh Less".  Why are they so threatened by the machine?  I don't understand! 

As for the weight of the unit...The Minelab SE weight 3 lbs 7 oz without a battery.  The DFX runs 4lbs even with its battery.  So you add the weight of the minelabs SlimPack battery and you are close to even for the weight.  So that cant be tossed around unless you guys can't swing an extra ounce or two.

As for being "Made in America"...You are right, Minelabs are not made in America.  However, they do have a branch in Las Vegas, NV that employees "American" workers.  So that kinda shoots down your argument on that subject IMHO.  Just because the physical unit is not produced here, doesn't mean that we can't have a quality product.  Last time I checked, Ferrari's were not made in America, but that doesn't mean they are crap because of it.

Pinpointing issues....  Well, The DFX uses a concentric coil and the SE uses a DD coil.  These are 2 different types of coils and pinpointing will be different for each style.  Personally, I have never had a hard time pinpointing using my Explorer SE.  But I rarely use pinpoint mode anymore, once you get enough practice, you can locate your target without it.  However, The DFX's pinpointing is also effected based of the depth of the target.  So yeah, it may pinpoint spot on @ 4-5"....Give it a shot on a quarter at 10" if you can even pick up the signal.


It all comes down to what you are wanting to find with your machine!  Common Jewely, Clad coins, quantity over quality?  Go right ahead and keep swinging the DFX.  If you are looking for the deeper silver coins (I didn't say older, I said deeper), the quality coins, a little jewelry every now and then.  Are you wanting to pick up a deep quarter at 10"....Then pick the minelab.  Other then that, each machine is made differently and will do things differently.  I suggest that if you are happy with the DFX Finds, Keep it!  Leave the deeper stuff for others that want to find that type of finds!

This is my Personal Opinion based off owning both machines.  I am not looking for a fight, just adding my 2 cents!

 

[teverly]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

I have 3 exploreres,1,2 & SE.....I also have a Fisher CZ-6a.
It has been my experience with any machine i have used that your id and pinpoint is affected by the depth,size and composition of the target.Also when you change coil size the ID and depth can be off a little.
I am very happy with my explorers and i would recomend them to anyone...but i also have people asking me what a good starting detector would be and i tell them the Ace 250.
And personally i never had much luck with Garrett detectors.But i have read a lot of reviews and the posts of people using them..they seem to be very satisfied with its preformance.
So as i always say and as has been stated USE WHAT DETECTOR YOU LIKE AND ARE COMFORTABLE WITH..ENJOY AND HAVE FUN!!!!

 

[Kas]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Okay, after all that banter. Why does the SE go deeper? Is the DD coil bigger than the 9.5 stock coil on the DFX? In truth, wouldn't sell my DFX, but have been thinking of buying an Expl SE. The pinpointing problem scares me. I'm not into destroying property, and giving the hobby a bad name. Is the SE a unit that is best used in a field or somewhere that how a hole is dug doesn't matter?

I've found indians at 8" with my DFX stock coil. I've found barber halfs at 5.5", Rosies at 2" Silver quarters at 5" and LC's at 3.5" the LC's being the oldest, but not deepest. Coins are found at all depths. I know that their are coins deeper than 8".

If I used a 12" coil I could get deeper.

Anyway, can any SE owners tell me why the SE goes deeper? What technology causes it to dig deeper.

Thanks for you reply in advance.
Ken

 

[Jack(IN)]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Okay, after all that banter. Why does the SE go deeper? Is the DD coil bigger than the 9.5 stock coil on the DFX? In truth, wouldn't sell my DFX, but have been thinking of buying an Expl SE. The pinpointing problem scares me. I'm not into destroying property, and giving the hobby a bad name. Is the SE a unit that is best used in a field or somewhere that how a hole is dug doesn't matter?

I've found indians at 8" with my DFX stock coil. I've found barber halfs at 5.5", Rosies at 2" Silver quarters at 5" and LC's at 3.5" the LC's being the oldest, but not deepest. Coins are found at all depths. I know that their are coins deeper than 8".

If I used a 12" coil I could get deeper.

Anyway, can any SE owners tell me why the SE goes deeper? What technology causes it to dig deeper.

Thanks for you reply in advance.
Ken

Personally I don't know, but my friend bought the 8"x 14 inch coil and has been pulling coins at 8-9 inches in these dry conditions. He is not sometimes sure if its a coin but using his words "It kinda has a coin sound" and he's been successful. He plays with the settings and is constantly tweaking, constantly checking different freq's to listen. I didn't like my DFX, but he is familiar with Whites so upgraded to the DFX. Why not spend $250 on a bigger coil and check your finds before spending $1000 + on the SE. I don't have the SE because I didn't feel the difference between my XS and the for ME, was worth it!

 

[Kas]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Jack, Yeah, a bigger coil makes them all go deeper. The bigger the coil the less chance of finding coin sized objects.

Haven't seen any answers as to way the Expl se goes deeper.

I guess that the only way to check would be to bury a coin and try both with an experienced user making the setting on both machines.

I'm still hot for an SE though. But stil plan to buy a 12" coil for the DFX.

Dig it- Ken

 

[DFX-SE Gregg]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Jack, Yeah, a bigger coil makes them all go deeper. The bigger the coil the less chance of finding coin sized objects.

Haven't seen any answers as to way the Expl se goes deeper.

I guess that the only way to check would be to bury a coin and try both with an experienced user making the setting on both machines.

I'm still hot for an SE though. But stil plan to buy a 12" coil for the DFX.

Dig it- Ken

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http://hobby.us.whiteselectronics.com/content/view/42/111/

 

[PENNYHUNTER]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Well I haven't owned eather one of these detector(yet). And I'm not knocking eather one of the machines. BUT IF the DFX tech was so good why didn't minelab keep it? If I had such a soupier machine I wouldn't sell it, especially to my main competetor. Whites makes a hefty paymet to minelab each month for the DXF because they designed it. So mu thoughts is that when they designed it they had something in the making (SE), and that's why they sold it to whites.......

 

[fd3615]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

The pinpointing problem scares me. I'm not into destroying property, and giving the hobby a bad name. Is the SE a unit that is best used in a field or somewhere that how a hole is dug doesn't matter?

Anyway, can any SE owners tell me why the SE goes deeper? What technology causes it to dig deeper.

Ken

I have owned my new SE for about 20 days - I have had it in the field about 15 times. At first I had a problem with the pinpointing - but I was accustomed to my Garrett MHCX. Now that I have used it a bit pinpointing is a breeze..

As to why the machine goes deeper I am not sure... But i can tell you it does.. I have been hunting in my area hard for the past 2 years ( clearing trash - LOL ) and now I am rehitting spots I have pounded.. The SE is driving down VERY deep - The ground sings - at first I thought the machine was unstable till I started digging - man there sure is alot of iron in the ground.

Another thing I have noticed - With my old detector a silver target next to iron would be masked - with the SE - Iron and silver still ring out ( its a different reading - but its different then just iron )

Good luck in your choice.

I think you will be happy with both whites or minelab - Just dont settle for a lesser model - buy the best so you dont have to wonder.. What if

 

[Michigan Badger]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

Holy Molely...bout a million posts under this thread!

If ya-all don't mind a Tesoro shallow hunter tossing in a thought here.

Don't you all think the real thing is location? I mean, ya got to be where something is to dig it.

Somebody here wrote about digging a dime at 20 inches. That's very impressive but how in the heck did it get 20 inches deep?

We can argue machines till we're all blue in the face but the bottom line is location. You guys know a least 95% of all the great finds aren't even 6 inches deep. I enjoy watching those online videos of digging CW relics and other such digs that for years I was told were like 12-20 inches deep. What's funny is on these diggin videos I don't think I've seen anybody dig over 5 inches deep for a 3-ringer.

North west of us I have a buddy who hunts relics that make your CW and ancient site finds look brand new. Here in Michigan we have ancient Copper Culture relics dating back to 6000+ years old. My buddy digs knife blades and all sorts of Copper Culture artifacts at 3 to 7 inches deep. The 7 inches is at the beach where the wind blows the sand around to cover things more.

Okay..best back out before I write something I'd be sorry for.

It's all about location guys! Take most any decent detector from Tesoro, Whites, Minelab, Fisher, Garrett, etc., and you'll kill the loot. That is, if'n it's there to dig.

Badger

 

[birdman]

Re: MINELAB SE VS WHITE'S DFX

V, that was a good read thanks for taking the time. Deepth does make a differnce for sure.I have dug 12 inches plus for minnie balls and some coins .I know I have walked over deeper stuff also.I used to hunt with a buddy that used a DFX and at the end of the day we would have about the same amount of finds . I know DFX is better then the machine that I use (more bells and whistles)but my recovery time was faster and he would stand there and push buttons for awhile before he dug. I think he just liked to try to figure out what it was before it came out of the ground and me I wait till it comes out of the ground to see what it was. I would love to have an SE but you have to have pretty deep pockets for one or have a wife that would not go crazy if you spend 1000.00 on a machine .LOL